Introducing AX64 Time Machine - hybrid imaging/snapshot software

Discussion in 'backup, imaging & disk mgmt' started by Isso, Jan 18, 2013.

  1. bgoodman4

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    This is always a problem in computing. When I upgraded from XP to 7 I lost the use of a number of programs that I had previously relied on. In some cases I am able to use them in compatibility mode and in others they are just unusable. C'est La Vie.

    Again give these guys a chance. Its clearly to their benefit to have a program that works with 8.1 and I have no doubt they will do their best to make it so fully and reliably compatible ASAP (at least I hope so,,,,rushing it to satisfy folks on a forum and then having these folks scream blue murder when their systems are trashed would not, in my opinion, be a good idea).

    And to anyone who may think I am a fan boy at any cost let me assure you that if I feel there are shortcomings I will be as strident with my criticism as I am with my support when I feel support is warranted. Product and personal loyalty is earned not freely granted (and once granted can be rescinded - ie RollBack Rx & more specifically HDS). I have grown to trust Isso and so have no issue whatsoever with his steps and position in what has transpired. The RC team has yet to earn my trust and confidence but I am willing to let them do so or not. Time will tell, and I am will to give them the time to do so one way or the other.
     
  2. Baldrick

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    Simply...spot on...:thumb:
     
  3. MarcP

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    You can't compare XP to Win7 upgrade to Win8 to 8.1. Let's be realistic. The current version cannot be used for "as long as you want" if you do the upgrade coming in a few days. That is a fact.
     
  4. bgoodman4

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    The instant I bought a new PC the old programs were unavailable. Its not like I had a choice, when I bought the new PC in Jan of this year I could not have XP on it,,,,and there was no chance I would ever be able to use the programs on 7 or 8 or any future program since the programs are not being developed any longer.

    At least in this case at some point in (hopefully) the next few weeks to months AX64 will function on 8.1. In the meantime, as was said above, you might consider disabling auto update for Win 8.1 for now and manually update what you feel you must. This should not be too difficult for most folks on this forum. Either that or go back to what you were doing before you began to use AX64 and when Isso has the problem fixed you can begin using AX64 again.

    Anyway, as I said above, it is what it is. There is nothing you or I can do about it much as we would like to.
     
  5. MarcP

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    You can try to slice things 8 different ways, but the facts remain. A statement was made that you can use the current version for as long as you want and I added unless you upgrade to windows 8.1.

    What part of this is wrong?!
     
  6. bgoodman4

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    In that sense I guess you are correct,,,,sort of like "until death do us part".

    By the way when I bought my licenses for the programs in question I had the understanding that I could use the program version as long as I liked but I never took this to mean for the rest of my life.

    In the case of AX64 I suppose Isso could/should have known that there was going to an 8.1 release which would kill AX64 for Win 8 users when he started offering AX64 for sale. I have no idea what sort of lead time MS offers to developers (would Isso have known about this at that time?). So maybe I am wrong about this situation and those complaining are right. Regardless, personally, if I was in this situation I would do what I could at my end to deal with the situation as best I could and hope for an early fix.
     
  7. MarcP

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    I guess putting an emphasis on "current version" wouldn't clue in? I think you're just trolling so I'll quit now.
     
  8. aladdin

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    MarcP,

    As usual you are spot on! :)

    There were people who swore about Rollback Rx and one couldn't say anything to improve the software. This is what probably killed Rollback Rx, as these people came out with vengeance against anyone who had constructive criticism about Rollback Rx.

    Today, these people have abandoned Rollback Rx and now doing the same thing about AX64 that one cannot remotely try to improve AX64 or say anything about it.

    I have four machines with Windows 8 on them. Within few days, they automatically will have Windows 8.1 on them. This is not an upgrade of the operating system. It is the same Windows 8, with SP1.

    How many Service Packs (SPs), the XP went through? I believe at least three.

    Isso needs to come out of the cave he is been lately and improve his beta program which is called, AX64. We have all supported him in the past, but this support is based on his improving AX64 and getting it out of the beta stage, which I assume will at least take one more year. AX64 is truly lacking in many areas.

    Best regards,

    Mohamed
     
  9. MarcP

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    Mohamed,

    I appreciate the though and throughout my past post, there has been a shift from liking RollbackRX to not trusting it anymore. However, don't misunderstand my recent posts for/against (depending how you look at it) AX64. I really respect Isso and understand the recent development. I explained myself really well in the past that as long as communication is good and there is encouraging progress, I'm all in. Trust is not a blind beast. I did say that I'm intrigued and willing to go along to see what comes out so I am cautiously optimistic. I will remain on this path until the concrete end result comes out.

    However, what happened recently is twl845 saying that the current version of AX64 will work for as long as you have it. I don't disagree with that statement, but added that it is true as long as you don't upgrade to Win8.1 which is coming in a few days. Someone took on the task to troll me on that. Don't know why. I think it is an important caveat to communicate to anyone considering an upgrade. Ignoring it doesn't make it less true.

    However, I don't have blind faith. I used to be an Acronis believer a few years ago until things changed (long story). I will never recommend Acronis today. Isso had made great efforts and had held a great presence in the community which resulted in a great deal of trust, but trust has butterfly wings. Touch it once and it won't fly again. In all, I'm still in Isso's camp.
     
  10. aladdin

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    Thank you Marc and as usual well said. We are all still in Isso's camp!

    Best regards my dearest friend,

    Mohamed
     
  11. aladdin

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    Dearest Terry,

    You are entitled about your views about AX64 and being an open forum, no one has the right to criticize you. This is how you feel about AX64 and the AX64 (RealCopy) team. Constructive comments about the program makes the program better and should be appreciated by everyone.

    However, this is not a religious forum. I amazed what Islam had to do with AX64. It simply shows your bigotry.

    Best regards,

    Mohamed
     
  12. legacy

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    Hi folks,

    i have enjoyed my time with AX64, but the time has come to to move forward and use existing tools, as am using Windows 8 and i will be in the same boat as most,

    back to Easues and Farstone then for solid backups, so hopefully in a year times Ax64 will support the new os updates.

    :thumb: :isay:
     
  13. bgoodman4

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    Trolling was not my intention, just trying to make sense out of what I guess was a semantic misunderstanding, and honestly, I thought the comment about use forever and the criticism of Isso regarding this was coming from (among others) you. I forgot that twl had made the original comment. I felt that an unjustified attack was being made on Isso for not having solved this problem weeks ago and that is IMO ridiculous. This is beyond absurd with some folks actually yelling about it in big red block letters.

    But thats not whats really important.

    Whats important is that we let Isso and co get on with what needs to be done. They should do what they think is important first and all the rest will follow in due course. I expect that thats exactly what is happening but I fear that what is likely to come from this kind of aggressive behavior is that Isso will disappear into the background and simply get on with what HE feels is important. Why the heck would he want to hang out here with folks jumping on him with both feet every time they have a gripe.

    This would really be too bad but I would understand it if it happens.

    Finally, I resent being referred to as a fan boy who will at all costs defend AX64 or any other program. Really, its one thing to express an opinion and its another to attack anyone who disagrees with your opinion. I have tried to be fair and measured in my comments and replies and I fail to understand why you would suggest I am trolling. I guess it would have been better to simply not bother responding.

    Anyway I am sick of the whole mess and will stick to trying to help folks who are having issues with AX64 if I am in a position to do so. This kind of animosity makes my stomach churn and so I will drop out of this particular discussion as of now.
     
  14. Baldrick

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    Completely agree with you on this sentiment BG, and will be operating in the same vein, i.e., help where I can - Yes, speculation & remonstration - No.

    :blink:
     
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  15. aladdin

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    Dearest Legacy,

    I am pretty sure that Isso will have it working very, very shortly, as the developers were given enough time to sort it out. Windows 8.1 Preview was out ages ago, and the RTM (Release To Manufacturer) been out for two months now.

    If Isso cannot solve this problem soon, than it will be paramount to throwing AX64 in dustbins, just like Rollback Rx. The future is not Windows XP neither Windows 7.

    Best regards,

    Mohamed
     
  16. twl845

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    Hi Marc, I think I should have been more specific when I said as long as you have it. I am using WIN7 and don't expect to upgrade to V8 because I really like WIN 7, so I should be able to use AX64 as long as I want. I didn't think about you folks who are using V8 and beyond when I said that. I don't think Isso is worrying about V8.1 in AX64 as he moves on to RCTM.
     
  17. legacy

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    Hi Aladdin,

    i sure hope so. A lot of other backup progams have had stuff in the pipeline for a while with windows 8, so there is no excuse really for AX64 and Real Copies excuses.

    Over the latter anyway, I always like to have another backup program on the scene just in case things go south.

    If you have 10 computers or more, your better off with Easeuses management console. You can backup ten machines from 1 laptop over a network, works great and to Nas or cloud too.
     
  18. aladdin

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    More speculation & remonstration.
     
  19. Werderforever

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    I have paid for AX64 and I cannot use it, because every restore freezes. And so I ask for a new version. 1120 is from July, now we have October.
    But some people defends "her" program with absolute power.

    I like AX64, but it is neccessary, that I can use it.
     
  20. TheRollbackFrog

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    Werderforever, have you tried the Build 1145 development version to see if that eases your problem?
     
  21. Derson

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    If you pay for something you has right to demand if that product doesn't work as it should.
    If I have any freezing problem with Aomei Backupper, well, I do not pay nothing for it, so...
    I said it, Time Machine is a non free beta software, even though what the marketing people say.
     
  22. Werderforever

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    RollbackFrog, yes, I have tried both Betas (1133 and 1145) with the same result. Not only one restore, I have tested it several times.
     
  23. Werderforever

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    That´s what I´m thinking, thank you.:)
     
  24. twl845

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    Speculation, Exactly. :D Remonstration, not really.
     
  25. Peter2150

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    Why don't you tell us a bit about your system. This is not what a lot of us are experiencing.

    Pete
     
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