Intel wants your next PC to have no wires

Discussion in 'hardware' started by ronjor, Jun 4, 2014.

  1. noone_particular

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    IMO, those who profit from making and selling wireless components are creating an artificial demand for them, much like those who make electronic speed control for motors, then put it in ceiling fans. In some situations wireless can be appropriate. In most it's unnecessary and offers no real advantage. Regarding fiber optics, it's appropriate when it offers an advantage, such as transmitting signals over long distances. For something as simple as a mouse or keyboard, it adds complexity without giving any advantage.
     
  2. Joxx

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    the drive to a wireless home environment is only part of a larger pattern where the goal is total state control
    I'm not being paranoid, I´m just seeing another tree being planted on this dark forest of Socialism we call the Western World
     
  3. Mrkvonic

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    And given that most keyboards are made in China ... invalidates your argument.
    Total state control can easily be achieved without wireless keyboards.
    DDR, USSR, Cambodia, North Korea, just a few examples.
    Mrk
     
  4. noone_particular

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    At the risk of turning the post political, Socialism is the wrong term here. Socialism is a word that so called "democratic" societies have been conditioned to fear. This is a product of capitalism, aka corporatism. The rest of the description fits. It's all about control and profit for those who control the corporations. The trend to wireless is just another example of forcing an unnecessary technology on users for the benefit of those who own that technology. PCs have been on this path for ages. Now it's moving into transportation. The same pattern is visible in both. The machines are taking over tasks the users/drivers should be able to do for themselves. The long term result is users who are dependent on the technology. Things as simple as pumping brakes on icy roads or steering into a slide. Drivers who have never had to do these for themselves without computer assistance won't be able to. We're creating consumers who can't do anything for themselves.
     
  5. Reality

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    I have enough to do learning about security as it is without making it harder with wireless. If they add an extra layer of security then I'll keep my wires thanks.
     
  6. Gullible Jones

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    I had a long and very political post I was going to put up here, but thought better of it.

    @Joxx - suffice to say that
    a) Oligarchy is not socialism. Quite the opposite in theoretical terms, actually.
    b) Not all government power is bad. A federal government does need some power, or it can't act effectively as an arbitrator of fairness (which, believe me, is *really* important).
    c) I won't go too heavily into my political opinions, but I think we established back at Nuremberg that people have a right not to be crushed out of existence - not by mob rule, not by dictators, not by corporations, not by anyone.

    Edit: and I have to say, this is getting pretty far afield from the downsides of ubiquitous wireless keyboards.
     
  7. twl845

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    The thought just occurred to me that if wireless keyboards etc. used rechargeable batteries like in a camera, the battery would continually recharge itself and most likely last the life of the computer. That I could deal with.
     
  8. noone_particular

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    This would work how? By plugging in wires, much like those that the whole idea is supposed to eliminate? This way, users can start and end their day with a checklist of all the devices that they need to plug in every nite and unplug in the morning. I don't see anything convenient about that.
     
  9. J_L

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    Wireless charging. :isay:
     
  10. Joxx

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    yep, then I'd answer and the thread would be closed eventually

    thanks for the answer though,
    and I'm sure that if we had the chance for a long chat
    we'd end up agreeing on the fundamental
     
  11. noone_particular

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    Years away.
     
  12. J_L

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    Lol, same answer as last time. Isn't this years away as well?
     
  13. Keatah

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    Too much "exactness" and inefficiencies involved in wireless charging for it to be useful in all but the very lowest "trickle charge" scenarios.

    Personally I don't care WTF intel wants.
     
  14. Keatah

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    Wires are not that horrible. There is too much "try this this and this and see if it works" mentality when it comes to new tech products.
     
  15. twl845

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    noone_particuar, Aargh, I should have thought that through a little better. As I said in my first post, I like to be wired.
     
  16. ronjor

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    Quoting from above article
    Right now, a lot of countries require people to provide password to law agencies, suppose its biometrically locked. Then they can take measures to forcibly open encrypted devices. As of now, people might say they forgot the password and its at least possible to happen.
     
  18. mirimir

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    Right, biometrics alone provide no privacy.

    But as part of TFA with strong passphrases/passwords, they'd be very useful.
     
  19. Infected

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    I'm waiting for wireless HDMI.
     
  20. noone_particular

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    From a Star Trek TNG episode, the words of Data, the android:
     
  21. oliverjia

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    As an old school guy who is still using a flip phone, I consider cables are superior over wireless on desktop computers at least. Every peripheral on my desktop PC is wired: keyboard, mouse, monitor, speaker, network cable, you name it.

    I consider security and privacy more important than any hype. All these cables are just sitting in there, they don't bother me. I can't imagine how they will bother anyone if your desktop computer is just sitting on your desk and not moving.

    In any situation when convenience and security are in conflict, I always choose security. I use Keepass, an AV, EMET, and standard Windows account with limited privilege so every time I install something I need to type in admin password. Yes it's a bit inconvenient, but how many times do I need to do that? Maybe once in a week. So it does not bother me.

    The list goes on and on.

    So wireless everything is not my cup of tea.
     
  22. J_L

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    It's not just convenience sometimes, but a necessity to be wireless such as when you're upstairs and the router is in the basement. I do see your point, but there is more to it than convenience.
     
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