Immunet 7.x Thread

Discussion in 'other anti-virus software' started by mood, Sep 30, 2019.

  1. mood

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    Immunet v7.0.0 Released (September 30, 2019)
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    Download Installer: https://download.immunet.com/binaries/immunet/bin/ImmunetSetup.exe
     
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    I don't usually use any AV but I'm giving Immunet 7 a trial. It's Free & very VERY light. Plus it: (a) has been around a rather long time, (b) has a loyal & sizeable following, and (c) has enjoyed several updates/improvements over the years. So I shall run it for a while. Why not?
     
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    Been a long time since I have tried it. I'll give it a go, along side WD and OSArmor.
     
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    Great! I look forward to hearing how you like it.

    As I'm sure you know, Immunet is an excellent second opinion AV, as well as a journeyman stand-alone AV. It's very configurable. What I like is, each configuration item has a "?" beside it -- hovering over that "?" calls up a brief explanation of what that particular setting does.
     
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    I'll give this a shot, need a secondary scanner, Zemana was giving me too many FPs.
     
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    Does Immunet disable Windows Defender on Win10?
     
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    Immunet v7.0.2 Released (November 7, 2019)
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    Download Installer: https://download.immunet.com/binaries/immunet/bin/ImmunetSetup.exe
    Changes in 7.0.2
    Improvements and updates:
    • No Reboot upgrades
    • No Reboot uninstalls
    • New kernel logs for Connector upgrades and uninstalls
    • Installer improvements to handle NoReboot upgrades and uninstall
    Fixes:
    • Stability Improvements in the Immunet SelfProtect driver
    • Fixed reference leak in asynchronous kernel exclusions
    • Stability Improvements on Immunet Protect driver
     
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    Unfortunately, yes it does. A suggestion has been made to Immunet's developers that they make disabling WinDef optional, as (for example) MalwareBytes AntiMalware has done.

    Having TWO real-time AVs running at the same time (Immunet AND Windows Defender, for example) can cause computer instability unless the "second opinion" AV (e.g., Immunet) runs extensive tests to tweak out any conflicts that might be caused by their AV. Obviously, big-old Microsoft is not going to tweak WinDef to accommodate little-old Immunet, so the onus would fall on Immunet to unilaterally discover & work out any kinks.
     
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    @zapjb -- That list has zero significance. It pertains to a beta version of an Immunet that was outdated several years ago. Immunet is now on version 7.0.2.11454. Moreover, the list is for Windows XP, Vista, & 7 whereas post #6 and my post #8 both pertain to Windows Defender and Windows 10.

    Granted, the Immunet website should update that page, & I shall so notify them.
     
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    Sorry didn't notice.
     
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    Here are 4 screenshots of Immunet (I-Net) version 7.0.2.11454: ScreenHunter_01 Nov. 10 16.04.gif ScreenHunter_02 Nov. 10 16.04.gif
     

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    :eek: Oh no, @imuade has gone over to the dark side!!! Psst --- Give my regards to Darth Vader. :cautious:
     
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    :argh::argh::argh::argh::argh::argh:
     
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    Yes.

    When i test it before one year i found that the windows updates and programs take a huge installation time delay when u have monitor program install to on.
     
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    For those unfamiliar with Immunet, this is easily remedied: go to Settings and turn off the slider switch for Monitor Program Install.
     
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    Do you mean turning it off temporarily when installing something?
     
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    Yes, that is what I mean. At times, a scan by Immunet during the download of a large Windows update can cause downloading to greatly slow down. Turning off Immunet's "Monitor Program Install" will resolve that issue. It's prudent, after the Windows update is finished, to return the slider switch for "Monitor Program Install" back to the "On" position.

    By the way, Windows updates can sometimes be "buggy" even though not infected. It's a good idea to read THIS thread, here at Wilders, in order to share in other people's experiences concerning each given update.
     
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  20. Joxx

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    Do you folks using Immunet turn "Enable ClamAV Engine" on?
     
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    I do NOT turn Clam on. The main reason Immunet offers Clam is so that you will still be able to do scans even when not connected to the internet. To me, Clam is a slow, clumsy AV compared with EEK (Emsisoft Emergency Kit). EEK works equally well whether or not connected to the net. Moreover, EEK is waaaay faster than Clam & is very powerful.

    You can get EEK HERE.
     
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    While I won't argue ClamAV isn't the very bestest there ever is, it is not actually the AV. The AV is Immunet (the focus of Joxx's inquiry) among other AVs that have integrated the ClamAV engine over the many years.

    Granted, with the proper setup, a ClamAV scan can run from a command line after a sigs/defs download is run. The command line, of course, being the preferred and overwhelmingly popular method in today's age of big-font, wasted space GUIs. [/SARC]

    I could be corrected, but I'm pretty certain EEK, being an on demand only scanner, and an undisputed class leader, doesn't update its sigs/def by itself. When opened, its got the data from the last time it was used/updated and as I recall, one is prompted to do an update - OK if one is online.

    Immunet updates itself, I believe via push.

    So, if some nefarious process finds its way onto your system and your NIC gets whacked, you can run EEK with the previously updated sigs/defs, which is better than nothing.

    Or if you're running Immunet, you can scan with the latest, as of that day, sigs/defs. That would hold true for any AV worth its salt. And then EEK with the not-latest sigs/defs, which is better than nothing.

    As for ClamAV being slow, if one is down as a result of an attack and AV scan speed is one's priority, then ClamAV admittedly isn't it.

    I'm running Immunet on a test rig and, after finding the versions up to 6 unsatisfactory, I'm thinking I'll run it on my production box. It's vastly improved. It's Cisco's best stuff, e.g. AMP Orbital. For free.

    I might be leaving ClamAV enabled, or at the very least, Allow Definition Updates.
     
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    Yes.

    Under "Virus and threat protection" it shows "Immunet is turned on."

    Selecting "Windows Defender Antivirus options," the only option is to enable periodic scanning which otherwise keeps the Defender Antivirus Service (MsMpEng.exe) set at automatic.

    All the other Defender stuff, like NIS, the Defender Antivirus Network Inspection Service (NisSrv.exe), remain operational.
     
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  24. Joxx

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    Thanks Surt.
     
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    Clam is the only scanner available via Immunet when the user is not connected to the internet. Clam is strictly signature-based & has no integral basis for detecting zero-day malware. NO leading antivirus utilizes Clam AV. None! Clam AV is popular with Companies/ISPs in their mail servers because it's free and Unix-friendly.

    Test data are non-existent relative to Clam's effectiveness, whereas almost all of the top-tier AVs are frequently tested by one or more of the 3 major testing labs (AV-Comparatives of Austria, AV-Test of Germany, and Virus Bulletin of the UK). The test reports issued by these labs are linked and discussed here at Wilders, on various threads throughout the "Other Anti-virus Software" forum.

    Involuntary disconnection from the internet is a rare occurrence. Computer security should be based on the validated effectiveness of security apps in use, not on the possibility of extended internet downtime. EEK's BitDefender sigs are a tested, proven, top-grade solution. Clam is not.

    Other free-but-excellent on-demand options include but are not necessarily limited to:
    1) Norton Power Eraser, McAfee Stinger with Real Protect Behavior Blocker*, Trend Micro's Housecall, Adlice Diag
    2) Macrium Reflect or equivalent -- nothing fixes problems better than restoring a clean image. I image 3 to 4 times per week, onto a 3 terabyte, separate HD, & retain images several weeks, FIFO.

    *NOTE: The McAfee Stinger download *package* includes McAfee Real Protect Behavior Blocker. Although Stinger is strictly on-demand, Real Protect will run in real-time continuously after Stinger is first used.
     
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