Imaging with HIR

Discussion in 'backup, imaging & disk mgmt' started by n8chavez, Jul 24, 2008.

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  1. Longboard

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    That is a very good observation.
    Cant answer your question exactly. but:
    I had to reactivate after installing an image to a VM, before I had done enough research on activation keys :shifty:
    Once it's actually 'in' a vm, then afaict, that baseline or tweaked install VM can be copied on a single user basis as required.
    Read this:
    http://aumha.org/win5/a/wpa.htm ( vale AN miss your posts )
    Nice little thread here:
    http://www.velocityreviews.com/forums/showthread.php?t=213414&page=2&pp=10
    I cant recall exactly where, but there are some 'legit' tech threads here and there about 'saving and transferring ' keys
     
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  2. Hairy Coo

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    As Manuel says- "Que"?? :)
     
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    These are some of them-its a points score system-so many weighted debits for each on the list.

    SP has no function/control over a reactivation except if its image is restored to a situation which needs it.

    Have just been through a period of reactivation and the MS rep. assured me that if you have purchased the retail Windows pack-you could get reactivation over the phone indefinitely.

    However , this must only be the case if Ms is convinced you are not running Windows on a second computer.

    There must be a check possible for them to determine this.
     
  4. Hairy Coo

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    Tried restoring an SP image of a current system- after new hardware,a mobo compatible with that system, was installed,using HIR plus the image and alternatively just restoring the image without HIR.

    HIR seems to act just like a fast driver backup app.,as previously mentioned,so it was faster using HIR,as most drivers were installed after restore.

    However even an ordinary restore worked out OK.

    Windows itself was so efficient in finding any missing drivers-as they were all within the OS-that the difference between the two methods was a matter of time ,not that long.

    As always,depends on so many variables.
     
  5. Longboard

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    @Hairy Coo:
    in post #51
    I was asking what utility you were using to do your HIR.
    Your Post #54 sounds good. :thumb:

    As to: How to Reinstall Windows XP Without Having to Reactivate With Microsoft
    this might be a bookmark for anyone interested in reinstalling;
    http://netsecurity.about.com/od/windowsxp/qt/aaqtwinxp0829.htm

    but
    So if its a true HW 'score' change = phone MS
     
  6. Hairy Coo

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    longboard,

    Shadow Protect-actually the term Hardware Independent Restore and HIR are to the best of my knowledge,used exclusively by SP.

    Its only recently on this forum that its been used to describe the operation generally.

    For example-ATI call their corresponding app. Universal Restore

    Your links about activation look interesting-will study:thumb:
     
  7. Brian K

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    Hairy Coo,

    Several of us have been using HIR in an incorrect sense. As you point out, the acronym is associated with SP and not with other software.

    Symantec have "Restore Anywhere". I don't think TeraByte has a catchy acronym for a TBOSDT restore.

    Could I propose DHR? Different Hardware Restore. Nah, I don't think it will catch on.
     
  8. Hairy Coo

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    Sounds good to me-:thumb: but of course everybody may quickly forget .
     
  9. Long View

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    just tried to reinstall without having to reactivate and it didn't work. From my reading this probably worked before SP1 or 2 but no more.
     
  10. sidneyman

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    I currently am in the process of upgrading from a Dell Dimension P4 (with XP Home Edition) to an unbranded PC (ASUS mobo + Intel QuadCore). The new PC came with no OS - its hdd is completely clean and formatted. I have all the necessary drivers for its mobo and nic on a cd disk. My intention is to set it up with exactly the same OS and software currently running on my old PC. As I have a large amount of software I don't want to have to reinstall them again so what I hope to do is the following.

    1. Clone my old systems hdd onto the new PC's hdd.
    2. Do a HIR on the new PC .

    I have completed the first task. I took the hdd out of the new PC, installed it into my old PC and cloned my system hdd to it. This worked find. Have ran the new hdd as the system disk and it works perfectly.

    Now the next part is where I really need help. What is the best way to go about doing the HIR on the new PC?. Is what I am attempting to do possible? What software is the best to use?

    Reading previous posts I see that Brian_K has done sometime similar. Would be really grateful for your or anybody help in relation to this matter.
     
  11. Brian K

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    I definitely wouldn't do this. The HD should be in its "final resting place" when the image is restored or a clone performed. Some people do what you have done but it's likely to cause problems.

    I prefer images. Less problems than clones. I'd create images of your old HD partitions and restore the images to the new HD installed in the new computer.

    Which imaging software are you using?

    PS... I just recalled you are using the SP trial.
     
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