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Discussion in 'backup, imaging & disk mgmt' started by Stigg, Apr 15, 2014.

  1. Brian K

    Brian K Imaging Specialist

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    I have 3 of your services. All Manual.

    I see shadow copies (hidden) in Device Manager. Why do you want to remove them?
     
  2. mantra

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    hi Brian
    why should i keep them ?
    I have several , sometime more than 10
    i don't think it's normal
     
  3. Dmitry_rus

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    If you go to Control Panel then System, then System Protection you'll see a System Restore button. This will show a list of saved restore points.
    The Shadow copies relate to these although there is not a one to one correspondence.
    Open your hidden Shadow copies in the Device Manager. Some of them are (probably) "greyed", some are solid. You may delete grey ("not connected") if you want.
    You can delete everything, but it will prevent you from restoring your system via restore points.
     
  4. Brian K

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    I'd be worried about breaking something. Deleting files of unknown function.
     
  5. Hadron

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    How do I use dot point 2? I can't see it mentioned in the IFW user manual.
    Is it the workaround for the infamous Windows 11 TBWinRE black screen issue?
     
  6. Brian K

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    Hadron,

    My black background in TBWinRE is fixed.

    Screenshot is in the Tools menu but I don't know where the screenshot goes.
     
  7. Hadron

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    Brian, do you mean in the TBLauncher Tools menu?
     
  8. Brian K

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    I think so. Towards the bottom of the first list.

    Edit, it's about 80% down the list. See if you can work out what happens to the screenshot. It doesn't go to my UFD.
     
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  9. Hadron

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    I struggle with understanding IFW changelogs quite a bit.
    And new features aren't always found in the latest user manual.

    When I first read these changes, I read it as a single change. :argh:
     
  10. Brian K

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    Cryptic
     
  11. Brian K

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    https://www.terabyteunlimited.com/howto/builder_settings/
     
  12. Hadron

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    OK. Thanks Brian. What would be the reason for the delay?
     
  13. Brian K

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    Not sure
     
  14. Hadron

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    I was reading a recent TeraByte Unlimited thread regarding "Create/Update TBWinRE WIM Used for Reboot", and also read an older thread on a similar topic.
    There is an option in TBWinPE/RE Builder IFW WinRE Settings Tab to use IFW BootWIM mode.
    From what I understand, IFW WinRE builds TBWinRE to the current installed WinRE. If you select IFW BootWIM mode, it builds a full TBWinRE of its own in a separate folder which doesn't alter the installed WinRE.

    TBWinPE-RE Builder - IFW WinRE Settings Tab.jpg

    I've never changed the default setting, so IFW BootWIM mode is not selected.
    But after reading the two threads that I linked to, I'm wondering what is the best setting.

    In the first thread that I linked to, it appears that the OP may have had a problem with space as it wouldn't update.
    In the second thread that I linked to, the OP wanted to revert his WinRE back to default. Did he have an IFW option in the Windows Recovery Environment that he wanted removed?

    I've run "Create/Update TBWinRE WIM Used for Reboot" before, but when I check the status in TBWinPE/RE Builder Build Type screen, it states the following.
    Status: Contains WinRE (TBWinRE not found)

    TBWinPE-RE Builder - Build Type_.jpg

    So, is my Windows Recovery Environment still at its original state?
     
  15. Brian K

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    Correct. You have the original Microsoft winre.wim
    I do too as I prefer IFL for restores but the TBWinRE x64 method is excellent.

    If you have modified your RE you see...

    Status: Contains TBWinRE x64 with Image for Windows 3.61

    If you boot into your RE by using Shift/Restore and your RE has been modified, you will see the TBLauncher bar on the left of your screen with the background being the blue Microsoft RE.
     
  16. Hadron

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    Out of curiosity, I booted into Windows Recovery Environment (WinRE) and couldn't see TBLauncher or anything else that looked like TBWinRE. That confirms what you said. It's not modified.
    I guess those people in the above TeraByte Forum threads must have done more than simply running "Create/Update TBWinRE WIM Used for Reboot" from the IFW Utilities.

    It makes me wonder what running "Create/Update TBWinRE WIM Used for Reboot" does and where it saves it to.
     
  17. Brian K

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    When you run "Create/Update TBWinRE WIM Used for Reboot" it modifies winre.wim. It still has the same filename but its size increases from 597 to 604 MiB.

    winre.wim is in the RE partition. In \Recovery\WindowsRE folder.
     
  18. Hadron

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    Thanks again, Brian.
     
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    I have version 3.60 with the reboot option in place, when updating to 3.61 it creates a new boot option which adds about 700mb:s more. How do i avoid this?
    I have tried a totaly new install but it seems that it leaves the boot file when uninstalling so it adds a new one anyway on top.
     
  20. Brian K

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    Where do you see this file? What is the filename?
     
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    I see it in Explorer in C: because it increases, so i do not see any special file.

    With 3.60 the boot file is in place and works. After installing 3.61 i go to the option to create or update that file, that is when it happens. Instead of just updating it, or letting it be as is, it must be creating another one since the increase is about the same in size as the existing one.
     
  22. Brian K

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    pb1, I suspect these are just backup files of winre.wim. I move them to my backup partition to keep the C: drive lean and mean.

    Check C:\Program Files (x86)\TeraByte Drive Image Backup and Restore Suite\tbwinre\WinRE_Backup

    Do you have 2 backups? What are the file sizes?
     
  23. pb1

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    First, thank you for your time Brian K.

    I fixed the problem just shortly after the post was done, how, not sure, i had to do a lot of actions due to big problems with the latest W.update, among them restore to older image. But good to know your suggestion for future events.

    Thanks again.
     
  24. Hadron

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    This is only a very minor issue, so I have lived with it for years. I just put it down to it being a shortcoming of the program.

    In the early days of using IFW, I'd create a scheduled backup via the backup wizard and it would be added to the IFW Scheduled Tasks list. But after some time, for whatever reason, the scheduled task(s) would disappear from the IFW Scheduled Tasks list, although the scheduled backups would continue to work.

    Image For Windows Scheduled Tasks.png

    In recent years, I've been doing scheduled backups using the IFWRotate script. Of course, adding the IFWRotate script to Windows Task Scheduler works well, but IFW is not going to automatically populate it in the IFW Scheduled Tasks list.

    So, my question is... Where does IFW store this Scheduled Tasks list? If I knew that, then maybe I could manually populate it with my current IFW Scheduled Tasks.
     
  25. Brian K

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    Hadron,

    They are in Task Scheduler, called...

    Image for Windows - Task 1
    Image for Windows - Task 2
    etc

    I use the IFWRotate script too.
     
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