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Discussion in 'backup, imaging & disk mgmt' started by Stigg, Apr 15, 2014.

  1. Hadron

    Hadron Registered Member

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    Yeah, you're right, the hourglass spins with a black background for about five minutes.
    Interestingly, if you switch resolutions, the black screen background disappears within seconds.

    I was going to report it on the TeraByte Support forum as I haven't seen any mention of it, but if TeraByte Support know about it, then all good.
     
  2. Brian K

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    I only have one resolution available in TBWinPE/RE.
     
  3. Brian K

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    The date on my offending winre.wim is Sep 21. What is your date?
     
  4. Mr.X

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    Cool. Is this tool the BootIt Collection?
    I see in TBWinPE Builder two different key's formats.
    BootIt Collection has XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX format.
    BootIt Bare Metal has XXXX-XXXX-XXXX format.

    Is it the same key for BootIt Collection for TeraByte Drive Image Backup and Restore Suite too?
     
  5. Hadron

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    June 08, 2022.

    It makes me wonder when it updates.
     
  6. Brian K

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    Same here. Both keys are needed for TBWinRE/PE.
    But when making a BIBM or BIU boot disk, only the long key is used.

    Undelete is in Partition Work. Select the Free Space and click Undelete.

    Every partition, system or data, has a boot sector. It's the first sector in the partition. It has nothing to do with MBR which is the first sector on the disk. MBR is not in a partition. Undelete scans for boot sectors. When it finds one it recreates the partition.

    In Partition Work you can delete partitions. After clicking Delete you are given the option of "Clear Boot Sector". I almost always select this as I know I don't want to see that partition again. But once the boot sector is cleared, you can't Undelete the partition.

    By not clearing boot sectors you make the Undelete process tedious as it finds multiple overlapping partitions which you need to deal with.
     
  7. Brian K

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    Weird. I only started to get black screens with my latest wim.
     
  8. Mr.X

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    Well, builder says you can insert one or the other, not both.
    Question remains for me: Is it the same key for BootIt Collection for TeraByte Drive Image Backup and Restore Suite too?
     
  9. Brian K

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  10. Hadron

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    I'm on the Release Preview Windows Insider channel. OS Build 22621.900.
     
  11. Brian K

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    OK. I'm not in the Insiders and I have the same build number. Win11 22H2.
     
  12. Hadron

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    But different winre.wim versions. But are they really different?
    I'm not sure if the date is a good indicator.
     
  13. Brian K

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    MD5: 1D414D7B455D88DDDE082543E6FDE428
    Size 555 MB

    Different files.
     
  14. Hadron

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    Now we know.
    I wonder at what update does winre.wim get updated.
     
  15. Mr.X

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    This is a great concise and helpful information, thanks.
    Is there a way to have and launch Partition Work from TBWinPE?
     
  16. Hadron

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    I downloaded Windows 11 Version 21H2 Build 22621.525 and extracted Winre.wim from install.wim.
    These are the details.
    I don't know whether it fixes the TBWinRE 11 black screen problem. I doubt it.
    I haven't tested it.
     
  17. Brian K

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    No, not Partition Work. But you can use Scripts, TeraByte Explorer, Partition Manager. However, there is no Undelete function.

    IFL has full Partition Work. Includes Undelete.
     
  18. Brian K

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    Can you test it? It might be OK.
     
  19. Hadron

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    I've replaced by winre.wim in the Recovery Environment with the newer one.
    I just disabled the Recovery Environment, then copied and replaced the new version to C:\Windows\System32\Recovery, then enabled it again.

    But the question is, do I have to copy the new winre.wim over to:
    "C:\Program Files (x86)\TeraByte Drive Image Backup and Restore Suite\tbwinre\WinRE_Backup" or anywhere else before I build?
    Does it do it for me? Where does it take winre.wim from?
     
  20. Brian K

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    By default it takes it from the RE partition.
    If it can't find it there it looks in "C:\Program Files (x86)\TeraByte Drive Image Backup and Restore Suite\tbwinre\WinRE_Backup"

    My computer can't find it in the RE partition today. I don't know why. I had to click Search.

    \\?\Volume\{.....

    is the RE partition. I can find it manually with Search.
     
  21. Hadron

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    I just tested the latest winre.wim, but the black screen background is still there.

    Now that I know, I'll keep an eye on the Windows 11 release logs.
     
  22. paulderdash

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    :eek: So does it come right. And do restores work?
     
  23. Brian K

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    It's just cosmetic. All icons are present and work.
    After 5 minutes the black background disappears.

    TBWinPE doesn't have the black background as it's not based on winre.wim.
     
  24. EASTER

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    Thanks plenty @TheRollbackFrog on sharing your lengthy experienced details on IFW functioning methods. Especially as to do regarding PhyLock. I am curious though if it's rather preferred even by the vendor ro invoke Windows own VSS why TeraByte doesn't remake PhyLock or simply omit it in future releases if it's that limited now.
     
  25. TheRollbackFrog

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    Each early imaging vendor (very few) had to come up with their own VSS-type FileSystem lock facility... Terabyte, Macrium, they all did it. And it's still needed for those that continue to support XP. VSS didn't arrive until Vista and even then it was pretty bad.

    "Remaking" it is fruitless... VSS does a fine job, not worth the effort. It's just around in case its needed in older environments.
     
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