Image for Dos/Windows 2.00 Final Release

Discussion in 'backup, imaging & disk mgmt' started by markymoo, Dec 21, 2007.

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  1. Longboard

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    @mata7 :oops: Sorry.

    BrianK is of course correct and expert into the bargain.
    (what happened to your "bug find" in IFW, Brian ??)

    With IFW/BING/IFD; the correct way to restore an image of system partiton back to same partiton is from "outside" Windows : i.e. with BING or IFD or using the tools on a PE disc and the image on another partition or external drive.
    http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/kb/article.php?id=055
    http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/kb/article.php?id=061

    It's just one of the most basic concepts of the Terabyte tools.

    I had forgotten that that may be unfamiliar to users of those other tools which incorporate a 'drop to DOS' type reboot procedure to restore to/over system partition.

    Lots of the posts here are about the user unfriendly nature of Terabyte apps.
    I think a lot of this goes to scheduling, automation, "convenience".
    No doubt that there are other great tools available, nice GUI, plenty of features, lots of options....

    I have come to appreciate the robustness and reliability of these tools that fit on a floppy, and for me so far: just do the job. Some of the best $$ I ever spent.
    There may be some trade-offs wrt more "easy" interfaces.
    No mistake: these are not tools you just pop-in and hit "GO".
    Need to trial and test: HW recognition and SW set-up and configs of own system.

    Seems to me most of the TeraByte user group posters request, even demand that the tools stay lean and mean. I suspect that Terabyte market share is pretty small partly because they have this "industrial" feel.

    Even at erudite Forums ( tiny sample of end users):
    http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r19580526-Poll-Backup-Imaging-Software-2008-Member-Choice-Poll
    I know I was/am one of the magnificent uberintelligent three. :D
    Heh: Acronis: for the great unwashed lol.
    Shadow Protect; didnt even get a vote from last year.
    Be interesting to see how things may change: not a lot I expect.
    Betcha corporate usage is way different.

    Ok, rambling now:- bed time.
    regards.
     
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  2. mata7

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    ok i got it, the only way is from outside windows with the cd, still love the program am really happy with it, they have also have a great support i send 2 email they answer me like in min, so thanks for you help
     
  3. Brian K

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    TeraByte release a new version on the day a bug is reported. Even on Xmas Day. Great support.
     
  4. Pedro

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    Sorry for the delay, thank you guys for the help.
    But why do BING users point to so many links. :p
     
  5. Longboard

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    :D
    LOL: kind of fondling; BING porn ;)
     
  6. Bob D

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    IFD / IFW v2.04 released 07 Feb
    Upgrade history since 2.0 (IFD):

    * Version 2.04 - Feb 7, 2008
    Corrected the partition size output to log file for resize
    Corrected encryption option (enc:2 is now enc:3)
    Other misc.
    * Version 2.03 - Jan 24, 2008
    Changed to support incorrect error code returned by CLIB IO routines
    Moved Ext DOS Open to be an option since its operation isn't consistent on different DOS versions.
    Corrected items to support DOS 6.22
    * Version 2.02b - Jan 22, 2008
    Corrected skipping clusters marked bad in NTFS.
    Other misc.
    * Version 2.02a - Jan 20, 2008
    Corrected wrong sort order under certain conditions when creating files on NTFS
    Other misc.
    * Version 2.02 - Jan 14, 2008
    Corrected restore problems caused by read-only object being used.
    Removed extra screen draws causing flicker
    Other misc.
    * Version 2.01 - Jan 9, 2008
    Work around added to correct hang and lockup problems with certain servers
    Fixed USBLIO option to work with USB DVD/CD drives. (note: USBLIO=8 is equivalent to the V1 USBLIO option and can be used in place of USBLIO=1)
    Changed progress update to occur in the foreground by default (use BGProgress=1 if you'd like to go back to the V2.00 method)
    Fixed trial-expire issue (in trial version) when trying to restore from an IFW created backup.
    Updated manual.
    Corrected rounding of file size interactive backup option display.
    Added new Align2048, ForceHS, ForceHSOnTrunc options (found on the interactive menus via "F6 Geometry").
    Moved AlignOnEnd to be a HDx specific option instead of global.
    Other misc.
     
  7. mata7

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    anyone know a link to download the full version and not the trial

    thanks
     
  8. HAN

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    FWIW, a week or so ago, I alerted TeraByte about a bug I stumbled onto regarding Dell PCs. When attempting to image a Dell E521, IFD cannot see my USB hard drive, no matter what USB port I try. It does see it under the BIOS HDs but of course, that isn't the right location. I tried changing every USB setting available in the BIOS but no joy. So... until they can find an answer, the Dell cannot be imaged to a USB HD. (It does burn to the built-in DVD just fine though.)
     
  9. rendez2k

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    Don't you just download the trial and input your serial?
     
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    Han,

    I have a similar problem with USB external HDs and a Dell desktop. I haven't tried IFD with my Dell laptop an an external HD. I should.

    IFD can see my USB external HD if I use the BIOS Direct choice but imaging rates are slow. If I select the USB choice my USB keyboard freezes and I can't progress. Using BIOS Direct produces a slow imaging rate.

    https://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=195318#20

    The slow rate can be eliminated by using IFL.

    David from Terabyte made many suggestions but we can't get around the Dell BIOS issue and use the USB choice.
     
  13. HAN

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    David led me to believe that they will be obtaining a Dell and start working on this issue. Which is all I can ask for at this stage... :thumb:
     
  14. Brian K

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    Han, good to hear.
    Another thing that both of my Dells won't do is boot to a BING USB flash drive. Well, it boots but then freezes during loading.

    Something similar happens if I try to boot from a BartPE USB flash drive. It boots but the computer freezes about 30 seconds into the loading process. I hope Dell update their BIOS or David finds an answer.


    PS I forgot to ask if you can use your USB external HD from the BIOS Direct choice?
     
  15. HAN

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    Nope. IFD sees it but can't access it.

    I too think it's really a Dell problem. I'm just hoping Terabyte can find a workaround...
     
  16. Cloudcroft

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    Brian, I have the same problem, but I guess I thought this was the normal rate. Faster would be better. How do I go about using IFL?
     
  17. Brian K

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    Cloudcroft,

    Download IFL, double click makedisk.exe, enter your serial and burn your CD.
    Boot to the CD and the GUI menu is identical to IFD. So if you can use IFD, you can use IFL. Just don't click the USB choice. What happens is that choice inactivates my USB keyboard and I can't progress.

    PS IFL takes about a minute to load as opposed to 5 seconds for IFD. Let us know how you find IFL.
     
  18. Cloudcroft

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    Thanks, Brian...I'll give it try.
     
  19. Brian K

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    I've found another way to restore an IFW image with minimal user intervention. No CDs needed. I'm not suggesting it's the way you should do it but I think it's fun and certainly shows the versatility of IFW. It's the way I restore.

    You double click a batch file and that's it. Go and have dinner.

    WinXP shuts down and the computer boots into your second WinXP OS (you must have two OS for this to work).
    IFW runs the restore.
    The second OS shuts down and the computer boots into your restored WinXP OS.

    When you return from dinner, everything has completed.
     
  20. Brian K

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    If desired, you could run the restore as a scheduled task.
     
  21. Brian K

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    I did this last night, setting the task for 3 am and using an image created at 6 pm. Before going to bed I copied a couple of text files to my computer's desktop. This morning those files were gone.
     
  22. Defenestration

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    This has me intrigued, as it would allow a kind of Freeze feature (that FD-ISR has).

    Can you post some more details on exactly how you set this up (eg. batch files etc.) ?
     
  23. Brian K

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    Defenestration,

    Sure. I'm pleased you are interested.

    https://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=200199

    Are you using the latest IFW, ver 2? My method works better with IFW as with SnapShot you have to click OK halfway through the process.
     
  24. tanstaafl

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    Something else with respect to ShadowProtect...

    The full suite of Terabyte products is cheaper ($50) than ShadowProtect Desktop Edition ($80) - AND the Terabyte products will do Windows Server versions as well, while the ShadowProtect Server version (that is required to image Windows Server versions) is $900.

    I am interested in the P2V capabilities of ShadowProtect, but still - $900 is way too much for me to spend as an indivudual...
     
  25. Defenestration

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    Thanks Brian. I'm using version 2 products.

    I'm going to use nLite to create an extremely cut down Windows version for the second install.
     
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