IFD - Creating Bootable Media

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  1. puff-m-d

    puff-m-d Registered Member

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    Hello,

    I have a question concerning creating bootable media and/or an ISO in IFD using MakeDisk. I normally create an ISO of IFD and then use a program such as YUMI to boot it. I do this with all softwares that I wish to create bootable media with so I can keep everything on one UFD. The question is should I include "CD Boot Image Files" as it is not selected by default (see screenshot below).

    The help file is a little bit vague for me and does not give me a clear answer.
    I know it mentions CD/DVD specifically but what about ISO's that you boot directly from (without burning to CD/DVD).

    Any ideas? Thanks...
     

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  2. Brian K

    Brian K Imaging Specialist

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    Do you backup to optical media? If you don't have that option ticked you can backup to optical media but the disk will be a data backup disk. If you have the option ticked, IFD files are copied to the optical disk when you do a backup and the disk is bootable. It boots into IFD and you just have to click Yes and an auto restore takes place. No menu is needed.

    If you never backup to optical media then it doesn't matter if the option is ticked or not.
     
  3. puff-m-d

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    Hello,

    Thanks Brian!

    I never create optical media. I always create ISO's and copy them to a UFD that uses YUMI to then boot the ISO's. YUMI is a boot manager for UFD's. I can use YUMI to boot into any of the several boot environments that I have (all stored on the YUMI UFD as an ISO). YUMI make it possible to keep many ISO's on one UFD and then gives you a choice as to which ISO you wish to boot.

    The help file was a bit vague to me as it mentions CD/DVD's but not specifically ISO's (which, normally one would burn to a CD/DVD). From my understanding of your reply, In my scenario it would not matter whether I had this option ticked or not, as I would end with the same results.

    As always, thanks for your help!
     
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    I might have to update my Yumi since it's been sitting unused for awhile.

    It should prove pretty convenient to have AX64 Recovery plus my Linux Mint and perhaps another one or two all on a single UFD.

    EASTER
     
  5. puff-m-d

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    Hello Easter,

    Yes YUMI is a very nice tool indeed. At any one time I could have 8 to 12 ISO's on my YUMI drive. A lot handier and only one UFD compared to 8 to 12...

    Version 2 of YUMI is in beta testing now (I really like it so far), just be aware that with the version 2 betas and the release when it is ready, it is not backwards compatible with previous versions. In order to use any of the version 2 builds, you would have to start fresh (not just download new and use over the top as before).
     
  6. aladdin

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    Another good one is Easy2Boot. However, I do away with all these by having all my imaging software available to me as "bootmenu". It is one time thingy to set it up with EasyBCD, then every time a new version of the imaging software comes out, I make a new ISO, extract it, and replace the old directory with the new extracted directory. No need for YUMI or Easy2Boot. And, always have the latest Recovery Media available without messing with Recovery Media.

    Best regards,

    Mohamed
     

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  7. oliverjia

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    It appears you have a BIOS setup, not UEFI?
    I used to use GRud4dos to chain load many ISOs for imaging and stuff with my old computer with a BIOS, but now have to do every boot recovery media individually.

     
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    HI oliverjia,

    It is done in the BCD Store and each Boot Recovery Media is done individually. One can add a new Boot Recovery Media within seconds, or delete an old Boot Recovery Media within seconds, with EasyBCD. And/or change the order of the bootmenu with EasyBCD including the timing of bootmenu. This also includes which OS to automatically load after certain set timings. In my case it is Windows 8.1 and the timing is set to 3 seconds. See the image.

    No GRud4Dos or BIBM.

    Best regards,

    Mohamed
     
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    The PAID version of Macrium Reflect, not the FREE version, adds automatically the Recovery Media of Macrium Reflect in the BCD Store, and it is then available as bootmenu on boot. Same thing is done by FarStone RestoreIT, FarStone Total Recovery PRO and EaseUS ToDo BackUp Home.

    Macrium Reflect started doing this with Windows 7 and this is before I knew about EasyBCD. For this reason I bought Macrium Reflect as my first imaging software. BCD Store has been available since Windows 7 in the OS and it is part of the Windows OS.

    Best regards,

    Mohamed
     
  10. aladdin

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    Correction: The BCD Store has been available since Windows Vista. What is BCD Store, please see the following Microsoft link:

    http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc770770(v=ws.10).aspx

    Quote from the above link:

    "Physically, a Boot Configuration Data (BCD) store is a binary file in the registry hive format. The file has the same file name as its corresponding .wim file."

    Best regards,

    Mohamed
     
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  11. oliverjia

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    Thanks so much Aladdin! This BCD boot menu is something totally new to me, while it appears to be very useful. I'll do some reading first to learn it.
    Many thanks for your guidance.

    Regards,
    oliverjia
     
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    Hi oliverjia,

    You are welcome! :)

    Wish more companies use this concept, such as TeraByte.

    TeraByte uses this concept in Windows 7 in F8 menu but not as bootmenu.

    Best regards,

    Mohamed
     
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