If they cannot break the anonymity, they will pre-emptively arrest anyone using it

Discussion in 'privacy technology' started by Ulysses_, Jan 25, 2014.

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  1. mirimir

    mirimir Registered Member

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    Well, maybe there would be friendly moles there ;)

    That would be a good place to start.

    A fundamental problem with this idea is that most of the experts are either TLA staff or criminals (some of whom may freelance with TLAs).

    For all we know, the NSA has already developed something like this.
     
  2. Ulysses_

    Ulysses_ Registered Member

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    As you are so experienced in such things and public, you must have received the attention of at least lower-ranking TLA staff. Has this attention ever become overt?
     
  3. mirimir

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    I haven't noticed anything. I get strange email from time to time. Some have hinted at serious money, but only if I reveal my true identity ;)
     
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  5. prnoid_ntrepreneur

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    how sad and pathetic when they cant control something they use these means to demonize people and take way their freedom. it only proves how theyre losers.
     
  6. Mrkvonic

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    Who is THEY?
    Mrk
     
  7. mirimir

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    The covert dictators, and their henchpeople, of course ;)
     
  8. Mrkvonic

    Mrkvonic Linux Systems Expert

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    You have a bigger problem than online anonymity then.
    Because if so, there's no reason why "they" can't arrest you. Period.
    Mrk
     
  9. mattdocs12345

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    That's funny.
     
  10. mirimir

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    Well, they can't arrest mirimir, unless they know who and/or where he is.
     
  11. Paranoid Eye

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    Fixed your post but remember I live directly below you though so I am the first to get it then yourself*puppy*
     
  12. J_L

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    A proper fix would be they, how do you know it's only one person? Plus there's the intersex. I can assume "it" is not necessary from the rather human-like writing.

    Anyhow, mirmir brought up a great point, if they cannot break anonymity, they cannot determine who they're arresting.
     
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  13. mirimir

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    Only my wife knows that I'm mirimir, or vice versa.

    They'd get me if they arrested everyone using VPNs, but they still wouldn't know any specifics. Of course, there would be a fight over encrypted stuff.
     
  14. chiraldude

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    I think the idea behind the OP of this thread was that some time in the near future, your government would enact laws to restrict anonymity. Fear of said government would cause the vast majority of VPN users to stop. The three letter agency types would then be free to assume that the remaining VPN users were "up to no good". The rest I leave to your imagination.
     
  15. mirimir

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    If that happened where I was living, I would move somewhere else.
     
  16. Ulysses_

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    Chiraldude is right on. And mirimir, the plan seems to be to turn the entire world into a covert dictatorship. One by one all countries will enact similar laws to restrict internet usage.

    An additional factor is that you have had a life before you started to use VPN's that can attract attention to your telephone line and associated VPN. What is known about you from back then, that might annoy the forces that be? Might you be a bit of a hacker, with unsavoury contacts?
     
  17. Virmaline

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    Nah, the Orwellian stuff is for your own good, to make you safe ...
     
  18. mirimir

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    The world is huge, and I am very small ;) But we are many, and we're clever.

    I was a Boy Scout! Well, sort of ;)
     
  19. Paranoid Eye

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    We could always move to iceland ;)
     
  20. DesuMaiden

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    What justifications can the government use to arrest people who uses anonymity on the Internet?
     
  21. mirimir

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    They can enact laws that make the tools (VPNs, Tor, encryption, etc) illegal.

    For example:

    <http://www.dw.de/irans-culture-minister-to-loosen-internet-restrictions/a-17468301>
     
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