lol *sigh* after a PM I realize that none of my post crossed over properly. My point is that these conversations aren't worth getting upset about, neither are the MS articles. My opinions are based on things. Yours are based on things. We all view each others ideas as wrong for whatever reason, and everyone will continue to push their ideas. In the end it's only worth considering these conversations ways to kill time because anything else is just painful @noone, How many systems ran 98 when it was retired? How many will be running XP? That alone should tell you the situation is completely different.