How long can a HIPS go without updates?

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  1. Ibrad

    Ibrad Registered Member

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    A question has been on my mind for a while and I have finally decided to ask everyone here. Hope long can a Classical HIPS/Policy Based HIPS go without updates or Upgrades?

    I know a HIPS does not need to be updated often like an antivirus but how long can it go without updates? Programs like Process Guard are used still by some people even though it has not been updated in a while, can it still block today's malware? Will Defensewall 2.56 still be able to handle the new malware 6 to 12 months after version 3.0 is released.

    (I am not trying to compare HIPS together, I am just using those two as an example)
     
  2. bollity

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    they need update when a new generation of maleware appears,that uses a new techniques to infect the system.
     
  3. Ibrad

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    How often do new generations appear? Weekly, Monthly, Yearly, Once a decade?
     
  4. andyman35

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    There's no set timescale for when an entirely new method of infection will appear.The malware community are working on new ways to exploit systems all the time.
     
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    Yes. and they also put a bit of their emphasis upon breaking past, or disabling, popular HIPS.
     
  6. Ibrad

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    Thanks for taking time to answer all these questions. So from my understanding from everyone's post it is not worth using past versions, correct right? If that is correct it is still not worth using even if we are not relying it for our only protection right?

    Sorry for all the questions I just want to make sure I am fully understanding HIPS.
     
  7. andyman35

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    You should always use the most up to date version of a HIPS available since the vendors will have patched any discovered breaches/POCs and added extra protection coverage as a rule.That's not to say older versions will be totally useless since they'll still offer widespread protection but unless there's a good reason not to update (issues caused by later version) you should do so.
     
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    I would think you would always want to run the most up to date version/product! DefenseWall is obviously being updated to version 3 but I believe Ilya is also going to continue with two versions (firewall and non firewall). So if your question is if the discontinued version 2.56 will protect you then the answer would probably be yes. Just not as well as version 3, which will continue to be updated. The answer to your questions would probably be best directed at Ilya himself though.
     
  9. Ibrad

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    I posted over at the Defensewall forums, that was kinda what I was wondering. I have a lifetime license for 2.56 so I was wondering if it was worth using.
     
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    Ibrad - Update to the latest beta of DW 3.00. If I recall correctly It will install over your existing 2.56 and show your existing license. It is quite stable and it is very close to the release candidate. It has a 2-way firewall and you can also leave your windows firewall enabled (at least in XP Pro).
     
  11. Ibrad

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    The Gizmo 2.56 lifetime license does not come with upgrades.
     
  12. G1111

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    Okay, didn't know that. Didn't I read somewhere though that Ilya was allowing to upgrade for $10.95 or was that something else?
     
  13. Ilya Rabinovich

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    In fact, any HIPS can go without updates until the first serious security flaw found and disclosed. About your question, concretely- at least two serious flaws is already found in DefenseWall (MJ0011, my greetz!!), so I'm in hurry to release v3.00 ASAP to keep my users protected.
     
  14. chinook9

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    I got 2.56 through the Gizmo Hot Finds and I upgraded for $10.95. Thats the only place I recall seeing the $10.95 upgrade offer. I also expect to pay additional when the Firewall version is released. I am using the beta right now.
     
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    Yeah with the Gizmo offer you are available for an upgrade to the new defensewall for just $10.95. I upgraded as well.
     
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    :doubt: I could be wrong but I thought Ilya mentioned something about v3.00 (with or without firewall) being a free upgrade for current customers or those customers that renewed prior to the new release/specific date (which I do not recall).o_O
     
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