how can i disable windows 10 update forever ?

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  1. mantra

    mantra Registered Member

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    Hi
    windows 10 update is a nightmare even worse then w8.1/8 and 7

    i tried to disable the service, i set to disable , but windows 10 after 1 day (i guess ) , changed it to manaul trigged

    i download an utility ,it's cool
    TaskSchedulerView v1.11 by http://www.nirsoft.net with it you can edit the os task scheduler

    i can not find how disable windows 10 update forver , under w8 or 7 it was easy

    can you help me ?
    thanks
     
  2. whitedragon551

    whitedragon551 Registered Member

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    There are a handful of windows updates you will need to remove in addition to disabling 2 tasks in task scheduler.

    You will need to remove KB3035583

    You also have to disable some of the ways Windows Updates work because it will push them out. I have noticed that some of the updates have been getting pushed out with new severity each time updates are released.

    http://www.howtogeek.com/218856/how...ndows-10-icon-shown-in-the-notification-tray/
     
  3. dogfish666

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    Windows home premuim 10 you can not turn off the updates windows 10 pro you can delay to shut down only windows 10 business you can turn off updates
    oh what a luxury thats why i dumped windows and went to linux
     
  4. TS4H

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    Although I have never tried on W10 to disable the respective service and especially had no idea that it re enabled itself, you may try the following if this alternatively suites you needs. Navigate to Group Policy

    Computer Configuration > Administrative Templates > Windows Components > Windows Update.

    Click enable and select the method of choice. For example, mine is set to [2], Notify for updates and Notify for install. However the windows update service will be set to manual trigger and not disabled. But at lease this way you have stopped automatic downloads and installs.

    Alternatively, "If the status for this policy is set to Disabled, any updates that are available on Windows Update must be downloaded and installed manually. To do this, search for Windows Update using Start."

    There will be no notifications as far as i know with the current release. Earlier preview builds had no notifications with this method.

    regards.
     
  5. amarildojr

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    There is no disabling unless you never connect that machine to the internet. Microsoft controls the OS, not you.
     
  6. sg09

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    Try O&O ShutUp10.
    http://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10
    It is a portable utility. Now, enable all the options marked in the screenshot below.

    2015-10-21_181824.png

    P.S: I haven't tried this option myself, but should work.
     
  7. mantra

    mantra Registered Member

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    Hi Ts4h
    mine is set to 2 too , but it's boring because i get a blue screen in the center of the monitor new updates avaible
    in a forum there is
    maybe it does stop it

    hi dogfish
    it's very nice the microsoft policy , i have the pro version
    is windows 10 business -> enterprise ?
    thanks
     
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  8. mantra

    mantra Registered Member

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    hi Amarildojr
    sadly i bought some program , that don't run under linux so i'm stuck with windows :(

    hi Sg09
    do you install w10 update regularly ?
    thanks for the program!
    i will try it , O&O makes great software

    but is there a task schedule that enable the windows update service ?
     
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  9. Mister X

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    You can run this script by murphy78:

    Code:
    @echo off
    
    
    title Disable/Enable Windows 10 Automatic Updates
    color 1f
    :Begin UAC check and Auto-Elevate Permissions
    :-------------------------------------
    REM  --> Check for permissions
    >nul 2>&1 "%SYSTEMROOT%\system32\cacls.exe" "%SYSTEMROOT%\system32\config\system"
    
    
    REM --> If error flag set, we do not have admin.
    if '%errorlevel%' NEQ '0' (
    echo:
    echo   Requesting Administrative Privileges...
    echo   Press YES in UAC Prompt to Continue
    echo:
    
    
        goto UACPrompt
    ) else ( goto gotAdmin )
    
    
    :UACPrompt
        echo Set UAC = CreateObject^("Shell.Application"^) > "%temp%\getadmin.vbs"
        echo UAC.ShellExecute "%~s0", "", "", "runas", 1 >> "%temp%\getadmin.vbs"
    
    
        "%temp%\getadmin.vbs"
        exit /B
    
    
    :gotAdmin
        if exist "%temp%\getadmin.vbs" ( del "%temp%\getadmin.vbs" )
        pushd "%CD%"
        CD /D "%~dp0"
    :--------------------------------------
    
    
    :Check Windows Version
    wmic os get version | find /i "10.">nul 2>nul
    if %errorlevel% neq 0 GOTO :Not10
    
    
    :Check the key:
    (reg query "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WindowsUpdate\AU" /v "NoAutoUpdate"|find /i "0x1")>NUL 2>NUL
    if %errorlevel% neq 0 GOTO :KEYOFF
    
    
    :KEYON
    echo ============================================================
    echo Automatic Updates are currently disabled.
    echo Would you like to re-enable them? (Y/N)
    echo ============================================================
    echo.
    choice /c yn /n
    If %ERRORLEVEL% NEQ 1 GOTO :QUIT
    
    
    echo Attempting to shut down the Windows Update service if it's running
    net stop wuauserv>NUL 2>NUL
    echo.
    
    
    Echo Changing Registry key
    REG ADD "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WindowsUpdate\AU" /v "NoAutoUpdate" /D 0 /T REG_DWORD /F>NUL 2>NUL
    IF %ERRORLEVEL% NEQ 0 GOTO :ERROR
    Echo.
    
    
    Echo Automatic Updates have been enabled
    Echo.
    goto :QUIT
    
    
    
    
    :KEYOFF
    echo ============================================================
    echo Automatic Updates are currently enabled.
    echo Would you like to disable them? (Y/N)
    echo ============================================================
    echo.
    choice /c yn /n
    If %ERRORLEVEL% NEQ 1 GOTO :QUIT
    
    
    echo Attempting to shut down the Windows Update service if it's running
    net stop wuauserv>NUL 2>NUL
    echo.
    
    
    Echo Changing Registry key
    REG ADD "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WindowsUpdate\AU" /v "NoAutoUpdate" /D 1 /T REG_DWORD /F>NUL 2>NUL
    IF %ERRORLEVEL% NEQ 0 GOTO :ERROR
    Echo.
    
    
    Echo Automatic Updates have been disabled
    Echo.
    goto :QUIT
    
    
    
    
    :QUIT
    echo ============================================================
    echo Press any key to exit...
    echo ============================================================
    pause>NUL
    goto :EOF
    
    
    :ERROR
    echo ============================================================
    echo The script ran into an unexpected error setting reg key.
    echo Press any key to exit...
    echo ============================================================
    pause>NUL
    goto :EOF
    
    
    :Not10
    echo ============================================================
    echo This script is only designed for Windows 10...
    echo Press any key to exit...
    echo ============================================================
    pause>NUL
    goto :EOF
    http://forums.mydigitallife.info/threads/62525-Windows-10-Automatic-Updates-Enable-Disable-script

    In my opinion there's no need to use any other program. You can read the script contents anytime and discuss at the thread.
     
  10. mantra

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    But does this program need Windows 10 to run? I doubt so.

    Windows Updates are probably your smaller concern. As has been demonstrated, Windows 10 makes connections to Microsoft even when you open a photo. Not only that, but the fact that you're granting Microsoft access to all your files, folders, and even keystrokes, are to be taken into consideration.
     
  12. mantra

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    yes , some program could run under wine

    could not believe ! don't know in usa,but in europe an os like this could be no sold
    if it's really like this , i will restore my w8.1 image and say good bye forever to w10

    thanks
     
  13. amarildojr

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    Windows 8 is a problem too. In fact, all editions of Windows from 95 and later have known and proven backdoors. I'm not saying Microsoft abuses them, but I won't say they're playing nice too.

    Depending on the program, you could run it on Virtualbox. But I understand if you must stay with Windows.
     
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  14. mantra

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    hi i know about backdooors , i guess even in 3.11 nt ??
    but about
    can't believe it's even inw8 or 7
    thansk for info
     
  15. Mrkvonic

    Mrkvonic Linux Systems Expert

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    Very simple, disable the WU service. See my privacy guide on this topic.
    Mrk
     
  16. Mrkvonic

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    Proven? Show me one example.
    Mrk
     
  17. amarildojr

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    Not that I'm aware of.
    XP, Vista and 7 have proven backdoors. I don't think Microsoft stopped shipping them on 8 and 10 :)

    Windows Update backdoor in XP and Vista:
    http://www.informationweek.com/micr...ut-user-permission-apologizes/d/d-id/1059183?

    http://slated.org/windows_by_stealth_the_updates_you_dont_want

    http://windowssecrets.com/top-story/microsoft-updates-windows-without-users-consent/

    http://cubicspot.blogspot.com.br/2007/08/windows-update-updating-without.html

    Tor removed from more than 2 million people in 2013, by Microsoft:
    http://blog.insecure.in/?p=1373

    http://www.dailydot.com/technology/tor-botnet-microsoft-malware-remove/

    Not to mention the _NSAKEY.

    And actually, since XP, you agree to have such backdoors that allow Microsoft to add or remove software from your computer or even to make you not able to play CD's: https://web.archive.org/web/20060518123848/http://linuxadvocate.org/articles.php?p=1
     
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  18. mantra

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    hi
    i did it , but w10 re-enable it ,i set to disable after 1 or 2 days windows 10 pro set it to manual trigger
    you are talking about http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/windows-10-privacy-guide.html ?
    by the way i read the HP Stream 7 - To Windows 10 and back , are you the author ?
    thanks Mrkvonic
     
  19. layman

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    I have only one machine converted to W10 - a 32-bit laptop. O&O ShutUp simply won't run on it. Has anyone else given this a try on 32-bit hardware?
     
  20. Mrkvonic

    Mrkvonic Linux Systems Expert

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    That's not a backdoor, that's just Windows Update.
    NSA key is nonsense.

    You need to show one example where an unknown channel - i.e. NOT WU is used to deliver content to Windows hosts.

    Mrk
     
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    If you can learn how to configure a firewall with a default-deny policy, you can block anything that isn't an application that needs to connect. I have done that and created a temporary rule to allow updates when I decide to check for them.
     
  22. amarildojr

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    That's exactly what a backdoor is: the user doesn't control the software, but someone else does. It's like me thinking I control my new house because I have the keys to the front door, when in fact the contractor has an unknown/hidden backdoor to it and can enter the house whenever they want to do whatever they want.
     
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  23. mantra

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    WU is not unknown or hidden. Hence, not a backdoor.

    @mantra, yes. Cheers.

    Mrk
     
  25. amarildojr

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    I see you didn't read the articles. Please do read them.

    It's not Windows Update that is a backdoor, but the fact that Microsoft can silently update Windows even if you set WU to off. Off means off, unless someone else is controling the feature or program (in this case, WU) via a backdoor.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backdoor_(computing)

    Microsoft does have one (or more) backdoor built into Windows. They can get into the system without the user's consent and do stealthy things, as has been proven.
     
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