Hasleo Backup Suite

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  1. Jim1cor13

    Jim1cor13 Registered Member

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    Makes sense @TheRollbackFrog I really appreciate your help on this. I can understand why Hasleo would create the logs in case they need to consult them.

    By the way, an interesting story about something that happened last night after a full disk restore issue I had with another imaging program that is highly regarded here. After I did an entire disk restore, using that application,
    i noticed my OS C partition had somehow gained in used space by about 11GB!

    I went into disk management in windows, partition sizes were all proper, but 11GB in size added to used space of the C OS part. Makes no sense to me.

    I was stunned and couldn't figure out how that was possible. I opened up hasleo from within the restored disk, chose a disk/partition backup I made March 5th, and began the full disk restoration from within windows.

    Thankfully the Hasleo full disk restore was flawless, and the restored disk was now back to exactly the way it should be. Bizarre how the other application could have ended like it did, and where that 11GB of extra data came from.

    The other program restore went ok, but finding that additional size to my C partition was bizarre. Hasleo saved the day on this totally strange outcome. I never had anything like that happen before.

    I should probably open the discussion up on the thread of the offending program, but never saw anything like it before. Haselo disk restore was just excellent, but I have to tell you, I was totally baffled how a restored
    disk could end up with 11GB of extra data on the C OS partition.

    My main drive is an ADATA SSD and only 2 years old, no issues with it. Seeing how Hasleo brought my machine back from the realm of bizarre I was grateful, but totally baffled at the result of a disk restore using the program I have used for years restore in such a fashion as to add 11GB of size to the OS partition.

    Had I not checked the partition size, I would have never noticed it as everything seemed to be running fine, until I saw the additional partition size.

    I thought, well Hasleo, let's see if you can bring back the disk to the way it should be, and it did. I am clueless as to how the other program restored, perhaps the result was something else, but I did nothing different than I have many times before. I don't think I have ever heard of something like this before from a disk imaging program.
     
  2. TheRollbackFrog

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    That is very bizarre... not something that should ever be expected, especially to that degree! A post on their Forum may be useful but you won't be able to chase backward with any facts from the episode.

    It just may have been some sort of hardware glitch... if you use it regularly I'd sure keep my eye on its results.
     
  3. TheRollbackFrog

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    PS - ...and that's why we use secondary imaging applications! :eek:
     
  4. Jim1cor13

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    @TheRollbackFrog

    Indeed...it is just a wise move to use more than one imaging app.

    I am thinking something must have been going on, perhaps it could have been a glitch as I was restoring because of a restart failure when I was going to do a backup using another imaging app using its recovery UFD, and when I restarted an plugged in the UFD while it was restarting, the system never restarted, it just went kind of dead though was still powered up.

    The Dell logo never appeared and I did a hard shutdown. Removed the other apps recovery UFD, and powered the machine back on and it booted ok, then decided to do a disk restore after I was back into Windows, as something I think may have happened in windows that contributed to the failed restart. Some sort of windows glitch perhaps is I think likely, but rare on my machine.

    It really was just weird, never had used space increase after doing a disk restore from the app I used, blew my mind.

    Bottom line is, Hasleo came through like a champ on its complete disk restore, getting things back to normal. It has become my primary app at this point, but I still use one or two other imaging apps
    once in a while, but the one that failed the disk restore for me last night surprised me with its result, and I have no way of explaining it other than all partitions restored were proper in structure,
    but finding out my windows part C contained 11GB increase in used space was a mind blower!


    Thank you for all of your input friend, always appreciated and also for all the effort you have made in helping the HBS developers get this software to a very admirable stage of reliability
    at this point in its development.

    Have a good weekend Froggie!
     
  5. blacknight

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    Why not say which is the other imaging program ?
     
  6. samy

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    Hi Froggy

    I followed the discussion in the threads above.
    Finally, would you recommend it as a reliable secondary imaging program? .... or primary?
    Thanks
     
  7. TheRollbackFrog

    TheRollbackFrog Imaging Specialist

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    I have recently switched to the Hasleo Backup Suite as my PRIMARY solution... this is part of my extensive testing of this application. Macrium REFLECT is now in my secondary position for the duratiion of this test. My primary imaging app does an extensive intra-daily imaging operation (hourly) while the secondary imaging app does only 3-images per day. I will run this for at least a month before I determine where I'm headed next.

    I've used HBS as a secondary app since 01Nov. Other than some minor testing wrinkles (fixed promptly by the Developers and probably never affected other users), the app has been basically flawless.
     
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  8. TheRollbackFrog

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    Well... they fixed the issue in 2-days (I've been out of town for a while) and all is well in HasleoLand once again. I am continuing some UFD specific testing then will finish my CLONE testing... so far so good.
     
  9. beethoven

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    [QUOTE="TheRollbackFrog, post: 3187818, member: 116205" My primary imaging app does an extensive intra-daily imaging operation (hourly) while the secondary imaging app does only 3-images per day. [/QUOTE]

    Only three images a day for your secondary app - almost reckless ;)
     
  10. TheRollbackFrog

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    Life on the edge, I guess... :eek:
     
  11. TheRollbackFrog

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    BTW... Hasleo has just released v4.4 this morning, FYI!
     
  12. TheRollbackFrog

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    UFD Imaging/Cloning - as mentioned above, Hasleo appeared to have decided that any USB-based device should be imaged/cloned outside of the OS, using Hasleo's Emergency Disk (recovery environment). This is not quite true. If the UFD or USB-based storage element supports the UASP protocol (USB Attached SCSI Protocol), Windows VSS does support that protocol (W08+) and as a result, the imaging/cloning process may be done under LIVE Windows.

    Most UFDs do not support the UASP protocol, while most modern USB docks do. So... when using SSDs/HDDs with a modern dock (or built-in USB access mechanisms), imaging/cloning can be done under the LIVE System. I have found no UFDs that support the UASP protocol (limited search), as a result, imaging/cloning of those devices must be done "off-line"... under control of Hasleo Emergency media. If an online image/clone is attempted, Hasleo will error accordingly.

    Internal Disk Cloning - this operation has worked well with all the SSD/HDDs I have attempted under LIVE Windows. I tend to do my cloning off-line in real life due to the possible conflicts of device ID collisions if the clone is left in the System between reBOOT operations. I have yet to test the Delta Restore cloning operation (don't even know if it's supported in the current version). As soon as I know of its status, that will be the last test I do during this cycle.

    Overall, this product is in excellent shape!
     
  13. B-boy/StyLe/

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    This looks decent but I don't see the option to explore the files in the image like you would with some other products. Not a deal breaker but sometimes it is handy to be able to mount the image and pull a file out.
     
  15. TheRollbackFrog

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    They have a FileRestore option at the moment... not the same as mounting an image (they're working on that) but just as effective. They mount their image within the app and allow you an explorer-like interface to select what you want restored.

    It's quirky for now but it works.
     
  16. TheRollbackFrog

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    They do have a forensic mode (all sectors) but I don't know whether it ignores errors. I'll see if I can find out for you.
     
  17. B-boy/StyLe/

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    Thanks! Much appreciated! :)
     
  18. TheRollbackFrog

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    Personally, I don't like ignoring errors. When you do, the restored DATA is always corrupted... AND you have no idea what DataSet it belongs to. If a DataBase, a serious problem, if a photo, no big deal, if a video, only a small portion is affected, if an important SpreadSheet... <Yikes!>.

    It's just too risky for me...
     
  19. B-boy/StyLe/

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    It's just out of my curiosity. Not that I have bad sectors (fortunately). :)
     
  20. TheRollbackFrog

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    @B-boy/StyLe/ - Hasleo does not currently have the ability to ignore errors during the restoration process. They have accepted that Feature Request for further consideration.
     
  21. blacknight

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    Now the problem seems solved and the images size is normal. The only thing is the GUI, too minimalist for me. But it's not essential.
     
  22. B-boy/StyLe/

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    Thank you again! :)
     
  23. TheRollbackFrog

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    @blacknight - just curious, do you like a more complicated UI, or do you like it less intuitive in its use?

    I find it more than adequate for the general user, which I think is a group that should really like this application. Being a long time Macrium REFLECT user (and completely learning it, as necessary), I find this approach to be refreshing. After reading all the issues that "general" users have on both TenForums and ElevenForums... this app should fit very well with most of them :cool:
     
  24. RustyRail

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    New here.
    Was wondering if I could get some wisdom about a system transfer. I know this is more about backups, but from reading the forum posts, there's some quality knowledge about restores. (Glad I stumbled on this)
    I've got a Win10pro workstation, upgraded from win7, that I'm trying to upgrade the C: drive on. C: is an 512G nvme, and the computer is set for legacy boot. I bought a 2TB nvme that is currently on a pcie adapter. At the end of this, I'd like the have the 2TB as the C: drive attached to the MB and use UEFI. I've dowloaded hasleo suite and am running a system backup to a third USB HD. The backup is backing up the main partition and a recovery partition from the 512G nvme. I have written a GPT table to the 2TB drive but have not created a file system.

    My plan was to run the restore onto the 2TB drive, but I think there's a step I'm missing. How does Hasleo manage the restore? Like.. will it ask for a target, and handle the boot sectors?

    The backup is estimated at 8.5 hours, so I'm trying to get this right ;)

    I'm wondering if I'm going about this wrong. Is it possible to write the image straight to the 2TB drive, swap them, and bring the system back up?
    Appreciate any help. Let me know if this is way off topic for the board.
     
  25. beethoven

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    Given that Hasleo is updating quite frequently, I am wondering if this means that the rescue disk needs to be updated as frequently and if this is stated when necessary similar to what Macrium is doing in the update notes?
     
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