has looknstop been discontinued ?

Discussion in 'LnS English Forum' started by garry35, Sep 3, 2012.

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  1. moontan

    moontan Registered Member

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    tnx for the tips luciddream. :)

    can't really afford the router atm but i'll think about it.

    i am trying out the WoKhan Firewall Notifier atm.
    it's a frontend for the Vista/7 firewall.
     
  2. guest

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    I use Look'n'Stop

    but only for outbound filtering as I am behind a router
    I tried to find a only outbound firewall but was unsuccessful
    anyone know of oneo_O
     
  3. TheQuest

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    Hi luciddream
    Why? o_O

    Take Care
    TheQuest :cool:
     
  4. moontan

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    i guess to know for sure we would need an expert to see if LnS firewall can be breached.

    or we can ask LnS users here if they have been breached in the last year or so.


    i think i'm gonna re-install it and wait a few months.

    my bank account is empty so i have nothing to steal.
    if i get infected, i'll have my answer and re-install an image.lol
     
  5. Triple Helix

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    I have been using LNS since 2004 and I use it on my laptops with Phant0m``s Look 'n' Stop Ruleset Deluxe and at home I use with my Router but when I'm on the road I know and feel very safe and never had issues connecting to other networks and if I want Privacy I use a VPN, also it works very well with WSA's outbound firewall. :thumb: I just hope that if LNS goes offline that we would be able to still activate it if we need to do an OS reinstall o_O

    TH
     
  6. moontan

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    tnx for the testimony Triple H.

    that's encouraging indeed.

    i have tried many firewalls and HIPS.
    i know almost nothing about them but what i like about LnS is that it's light, and somewhat easy for me to understand.
    it doesn't bombards me with a flow of popups that are confusing.

    i only use the Application Filtering tab and do not want to mess with the Internet Filtering for lack of knowledge.

    i will keep using it for the foreseeable future unless i can be shown evidences that it it can't do the job.

    a firewall is not like an AV that needs to be updated constantly.
    looking at our monthly Windows Updates, i don't see Microsoft updating their firewall all the time either.
     
  7. Thomas M

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    Dear LNS-Users,

    LnS is running on all my PCs (3 licences) since 2002 without any problems!
    As long as using Win98, 2k, WinXP or Win7 you should be fine.

    Regarding Win 8: Here I am expecting severe compatibility problems. Has anyone tested it on Win8-beta yet o_O

    If you are planning to get a Windows 8 machine soon, you better skip LnS.
    Otherwise enjoy this piece of bug-free software (compare it to Flash or Java with multiple security updates per month ;) ) as long as you can!

    And about Frederic: Something must have happened that keeps him away from his baby "LnS". Hopefully it's not related to his health...
    Take care Frederic :)

    Thomas :)
     
  8. Mongol

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    I'll add my 2 cents, been using Look N' Stop about 5 years without a single problem. I've definitely gotten my moneys worth out of this little gem...:thumb: :D
     
  9. moontan

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    tnx folks for the feedback!

    i got an image of Windows 8 stored.
    i'll restore that image and install LnS to see how it does on Win8.

    give me a few minutes...
     
  10. clubhouse

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    I wouldn't be interested in a firewall that needs me to pay a third party to improve its performance.
     
  11. moontan

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    it works fine as it is for me.

    Phantom rulesets are probably best used by someone who knows and understand rules, and how to set them.

    i don't understand any of this really.
    i'm using the enhanced rules that is included with LnS.

    i don't understand any of that either. ;)
     
  12. moontan

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    moving on...

    LnS works with Windows 8.

    in Windows 7, the bare minimum i need to surf the net is to allow svchost.exe
    plus of course the browser.

    in Windows 8, you have to allow services.exe as well.

    i went over Gibsons' Shields up for some test.

    the only difference with Windows 7 is that port 113 is Closed instead of Stealthed.

    back to Windows 7. :)
     
  13. jo3blac1

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    Nope, IMO anytime developer goes missing there is no point of buying this product. That's why I like purchasing from big companies.
     
  14. Osaban

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    With all due respect, no matter what happened, it is unprofessional to leave your customers without any reasons. Even in the worst scenario (God forbid) a relative, collaborator, friend could send a simple message such as there won't be anymore support in the future. If Frederick ever came back even with a good reason, I would never buy another product from him.

    As for L'n'S itself, I had it for many years with XP without any problems, but with Vista I was glad to uninstall it, as it wasn't playing well with Sandboxie and Avira,
    I kept having blue screens every other day, and they stopped as soon as L'n'S was uninstalled.
     
  15. moontan

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    you got a point there.

    especially a concern when something related to computer security is involved.
     
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    Well I don't see that it really need's an update but
    in a sense it is being updated by" Phantom rulesets "

    Still is a great firewall, what's that old saying, if it ant broke don't fix it
    I will continue using it for the foreseeable future :thumb:

    and for people who understand how to write firewall rules
    "which I am NOT one of them" I would say this has got be
    be one of the best firewalls to use:thumb: o_O
     
  17. moontan

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    lately i been trying a few of them.

    what i like about LnS about is that it's light; it does not have an anti-virus or HIPS functions.

    just a firewall that's light, easy to use, and stable.

    the only part i had problem with was to allow uTorrent.
    but i finally figured out how to create a rule for that after reading a few posts here at Wilders.
     
  18. luciddream

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    Let's be objective here though... that saying isn't sound logic in regards to computer security. Could you imagine if every vendor decided to stop patching their software/OS's because they felt like it "wasn't broken"... we'd all be in a world of hurt.

    I hope people don't think I have some vendetta against LnS here. If you were to look back at old posts you'd see I've recommended it many times. I always used to say: "if you want HIPS, get Comodo FW/D+. If you don't want HIPS, LooknStop is the best pure FW". And this opinion was based on it's light footprint, and granular rule setting. But I cannot in good conscience recommend it anymore when it's not being actively developed.
     
  19. PhantomPhenix

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    Why? Do you know some bugs/exploits floating around the net that target lns rendering its protection useless? You need to post proof as to why this firewall is no good without updates. Not opinions, hearsay, general rule of thumb, feelings or by using some crappy analogies. The only limitations this firewall has are the rules you create. Also, this is not outbound only firewall. It will block inbound if you tell it to. :)
     
  20. guest

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    "Let's be objective here though... that saying isn't sound logic in regards to computer security. Could you imagine if every vendor decided to stop patching their software/OS's because they felt like it "wasn't broken"... we'd all be in a world of hurt."


    You write your own rules with this program, It may not be for the faint of
    heart, I think this program was made for people that have a little understanding
    of a firewall, this is just a platform to inject rules into and as such does not need to be updated as other programs do

    Although I do think a everyday person can use this program if they understand just a little about a firewall, it actually will help you write rules in a sense, what I mean to say is if it blocks something as long as you can understand why you can inject a rule that it will write for you to allow it but you better understand what you are allowing

    Also as long as Phantom is writing rule sets for it, it is being updated in a sense

    I don't think it is quite dead yet
     
  21. luciddream

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    ^ It's pretty sad that you have to rationalize things like this at all considering this is a PAID product we're talking about, not some free legacy app. I would personally expect more from something I'm paying for, but hey, they're your bucks.

    I personally don't want to sit around waiting to see if/when somebody discovers a vulnerability in my setup because it's no longer being actively supported. Not even for free products, let alone one I'm forking over cold hard cash for. The fact that you even have to go there to defend your stance is pretty sad, don't you think?
     
  22. Phant0m

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    If there was anything worth patching, Frederic would. The day there is something serious with this product needing patching, and it wasn't going to be addressed is the day I stop supporting.
     
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  24. AaLF

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    I know as much as Moontan about firewalls. Here's something, with FWs you can run two together without the crash bangs of AVs.

    I've tried a few firewalls without uninstalling LnS. Believe moi, LnS for outbound is unbeatable. LnS's popup is up & down, ALLOW / BLOCK, once, this session, permanently?? while barely do the others even wake from their slumber.

    I don't think a molecule or smaller than that can exit the PC without LnS's permission.
     
  25. cruelsister

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    How can you possibly make that statement? Not only has the developer let this thread go on, but there has been no response to emails for quite some time.

    It takes much less effort to post "Yes, I'm still here!" than to recode software, but neither seems to be forthcoming.
     
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