Google Chrome's malware protection

@John,

regarding reply #2 to your question, this means FF will trigger whatever 3rd party AV, such as Avast!, Eset, Panda...etc, is installed on the system to scan a malicious download?

...and a question for anyone, as for Chrome's built-in av, is it meant to compliment an already installed web-scanning av?

 

A better description of your own contributions to this thread cannot be had.

 

@ John Bull

You insist on the blacklisting thing. Fine. I only mentioned Chrome's sandbox VS Firefox's lack of sandbox. And, this is the reason why Google Chrome is more secure than Firefox. It isn't an opinion. It's a fact. It's a fact that the sandbox will make Google Chrome a more secure browser, when compared to another browser, that is also widely used, but lacks sandboxing techniques.

But, if you'd like to discuss the blacklisting thing... I'm OK with it.

Google Chrome has Safe Browsing for both malicious domains and malicious files.

Firefox has Google's Safe Browsing... but only for malicious domains.

So... I'd say Google Chrome scores 2 and Firefox scores 1.

With Google Chrome not only a user has malicious domains protection, but they also have malicious files protection and... a sandbox.

So... I suppose this makes Google Chrome score 3 and Firefox 1. The sandbox would put Google Chrome in a higher score, but I wish not to upset you.

Isn't that a bit like saying Who cares if cars have airbags, seatbelts and if car manufacturers try to make cars relatively safer, by implementing new technologies? We got hospitals and doctors that will sort it out...

-edit-

Your signature is quite interesting, though. I mean, for someone who doesn't care about what may happen with the browser...

 

What about your subsequent post there? I've kept a screenshot for auld lang syne

 

Exactly. Reminds me of the old days when some insecure folks actually would argue about which anti-Virus was the best ... they don't still do that, do they?

Acadia

 

Who better to argue than the insecure folks?
Actually, I have a slightly different take on most of this thread.
I view it as secure folks discussing various strengths and weaknesses.
Inevitably, there are those (fortunately few) forum members who see a thread like this as either a threat to the sanctity of their chosen browser, or as a personal affront on their computer savvy.
But most of what I see here is sensible people who enjoy and benefit from exchanging information.

 

Love you all for your kind compliments, but my post 50 is decisive in putting this issue to bed.

As far as I am concerned, Firefox`s liaison with the more professional AV program in scanning a download before it goes anywhere is final. No point in further discussion. I am happy to be the proud userr of Firefox and their cleverly linked security twist.

Bye fella`s.

John

 

lol oh my god what is even going on anymore

 

I wish I knew, I've never figured some folks out. Speaking of AVs scanning within browsers, as an off and on user of Panda cloud, I can say I've never seen it scan anything within Firefox. Avira (at least past versions) Avast and others do, as they make it obvious right when the file is done downloading (you see the scanning message in the download dialog box). Though I guess I'll end my post seeing as how there's no point in further discussion

 

Oh no! Not with so many unanswered questions!

Seriously, I'd like some input on my questions in this post, which I'll repeat here and append slightly.

Or some other conclusion I failed to mention?
Like the AV is called by the browser to intercept the malware?
Opinions, please.

 

I'm pretty sure all major browsers have a "call av" feature. In IE9 when a download completes it changes to "Performing security scan..", I don't believe Firefox is as obvious, but that minor "pause" just before a download finishes was always a good sign.

 

That's quite interesting. I wonder if other AVs don't scan after downloading with Firefox? I would be using Panda Cloud (freeware) now if it wasn't so prone to false positives. It's a great idea & very light. I eventually ended up with MSE.

 

I agree Page.

I asked the same question.

 

In Firefox, it says "scanning" right after a download finishes. But again, no such message with Panda Cloud (in my experience).

@Dave. Panda, so far, is the only one I have not seen perform a scan of a file within the browser download box.

 

OK, maybe this feature is not included to keep it as light & uncomplicated as possible?

 

I doubt it. It's just that some programs don't scan immediately after. What's the point? Any AV is going to be keeping track of files realtime whether it's directly after a download or not.

I'd much prefer a "second opinion" scanner, provided by the browser, before the AV gets its chance.

And this way I don't need any silly AV hogging resources all day.

 

Doesn't PCAV include an HTTP scanner?

 

Yes it does.

 

Well, you'd hope so.

I often use SUPERAntiSpyware (on demand) to make a second scan of any downloaded file. AFAIK Firefox merely scans with whatever AV you actually run. The Download Status Bar extension can customise this process somewhat.

Don't use a silly AV then! I use MSE, but there are other relatively light AVs.

 

Hello Hungry,

I just looked at your "My Security Setup", my God it must exceed Fort Knox`s security. I have never seen such a conglomeration of utter crap in all my life. It looks like a heavy dose of threat induced paranoia to me. Oh come on Hungry, it`s got to be a wind up, but if not I certainly had a good laugh.

I have never had an infection for as long as I can remember using the simple programs listed in my signature. Well chum, enjoy your enormous security blanket and I will enjoy my simple but just as good water tight protection.

I would recommend that you scrap all that volume of crap you list and just have Sandboxie plus a good AV and FW, then enjoy the simple but secure life that the rest of us do.

Anyway Hungry - thanks for the laugh, I peed my pants.

Confucius say :-
Why spend a fortune on security when a simple shotgun will do the job.

John.

 

How about you cut the wise man act and realize what may not work for you works perfectly fine for someone else?

Confucius say: "Live own life and worry not of others. Also say stop quoting me, tired of rolling in grave."


On topic: I guess that's one reason I ditched Panda. As I said, it never seemed to scan downloads in the browser (for me), and the HTTP scanner, whatever kind it has, never spoke up once on pages Avast would throw a fit over. Just a personal issue for me, I'm not trying to give any "final" statements on the effectiveness of Panda.

 

Troll confirmed?

lol all of my security is free. You've spent more than I have based on your sig and you allocate many more resources to your security than I do.

 

Troll confirmed.
A long, long time ago.

 

I hate how hard it is to tell.

 

I see. Well it's hard to say whether it has one or not, since the comparison chart on Pandas site is gone. Comparing Free/Pro that is

HTTP scanners usually works like it scans the http data while you are downloading the file and if it "finds" anything it will interrupt before the download is complete.