Goodbye to BOClean

Discussion in 'other anti-trojan software' started by LoneWolf, Aug 11, 2007.

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  1. Perman

    Perman Registered Member

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    Hi, folks: IMO We should somehow appreciate Kevin's position: He was led to believe that he could make such a promise to paid users of BoClean right after its acquisition by Comodo. However, landscape has changed, he has been integrating into Comodo's corporate environment, and he may not be a head pilot in policy making any more. Therefore such a change of heart that ex paid users of Boclean have experienced is not a surprise to me at all and is a daily occurrence in real business world. But one thing I am 100% certain is that this change is just few drops rainfall in comparison with AVG-Ewido saga(or scandal ?). I have no trouble using its v.4.2.5. While awaiting further clarification re privacy issues from the Top of Comodo.
     
  2. twl845

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    Why don't you folks just post your question personally to Kevin on the Comodo forum, or send him an IM? Just tell him what you expect as a former paid customer, and let his answer guide you. :)
     
  3. Perman

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    hi, folks: One affirmative obsession with this forum is that I can express own opinion openly without any fear of censorship , providing all terms and conditions are met. Posting at Comodo forum or PM to Kevin may result in quicker response, but the significance in raising concern or expressing opinion may look like days and nights. Wilders is a public forum, if Kevin or Comodo is so sincere about its users' concern, they will frequent here and post their in-time response. Just my loonie sense. Have a nice one.
     
  4. CJsDad

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    I have written to him but not received any reply.
     
  6. Antarctica

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    My opinion with this is to "move on" if we don't like what we see. I did the same thing with Process Guard, DCS-3,and who knows the next one may very well be SSM.:doubt:
     
  7. SystemJunkie

    SystemJunkie Resident Conspiracy Theorist

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    Could you explain this scandal, what happened? I only saw that avg swallowed ewido, anything else?
     
  8. Perman

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    Hi, I am very surprised you have missed the whole show, if you are a member here. Just go to Ewido's section few blocks aways, you will have mega tons of materials to keep you all night up. I do not know how to explain it, because I am not a paid shotgun of AVG nor Ewido. Enjoy those and you will be more smarter next time around, like me. Have a nice one.
     
  9. bellgamin

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    As far as I can tell, BOC is better now than it was back in the days when it was not free.

    Am I imagining things or are some folks more critical of free products than they are of those products which they pay for?

    I get the feeling that some of us are less likely to grumble about something we pay for, even if it's a bit of a dud. I wonder if it's because we don't want to look stupid for buying a lemon?

    If I could use BOC strictly for on-demand full-system scans, I would install it. But I can't, so I won't. Life goes on.
     
  10. btman

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    I don't have a problem with AVG taking over Ewido anymore... I just wish they'd release future versions quicker.

    As for BOClean... It was more another layer of protection... Like wearing 2 shirts in Winter... When 1 thicker (Better) one will keep you just as warm (Protected).
     
  11. LoneWolf

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    @QBgreen
    No, it was not a snap or easy dissision. It has been on the debate table since Comodo bought PSC.

    @Get
    Many reasons disgussed in this thread along with the bad vibes.
    Also there was the high cpu I got with 4.24

    @mercurie
    Yes it was a diffacult decision but one that had to be made.
    By the way thank you mercuie,it was you that first convinced me to buy BOClean some time ago. A desission that I have never regretted.

    @Antarctica
    My sediments exzackly.

    @Bellgamin
    You say BOClean is better now then when PSC had it. Have you used both versions?
     
  12. twl845

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    I have AVG antispyware running real time. Down in the lower left corner it shows "Detected malware so far". Pre BOClean the counter had reached 500 malware detected so far just running real time. I reset the counter to 0, and shortly after installed BOClean 4.24. Only 2 pieces of malware have been detected since. Is it a coincidence or has BOClean cleaned all the malware since found? o_O
     
  13. Triple Helix

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    Well I'm a long time user and still will be!;)

    TH
     
  14. aigle

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    I wonder from where u are getting all this malware?
     
  15. twl845

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    I accumulated that 500 pieces of malware over about a year. I wonder what they consider malware though. Every time I do a spyware scan with AVG or Superantispyware, all they ever find are a few data miners. I think in the 10 years I've been computing I've had 3 trojans.
     
  16. mercurie

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    LoneWolf,
    I am honored. Thank you for your words and I like you am going to be moving on too and for me also it has been difficult.
     
  17. mercurie

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    o_O Huh o_O. Yes, life does go on. I think it is the EULA that gets me the most and the contradictions in the responses particularly from Kevin even though he says he can not speak for Comodo. I am sorry he is Comodo now!! My gut tells me there could be some culture clashing. If it is we will never know. It would be denied. As for the actual app. it is still pretty good. But to me it has lost something that is very hard to describe. The EULA is not like anything I would have seen on PSC. There seems to be a trust that is lost between customer and Security provider now.

    Maybe all of this is just me. :doubt: gone o_O
     
  18. mercurie

    mercurie A Friendly Creature

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    Me too. One virus, one trojan, two false positives. That's it. I have these things as protection just in case. Don't believe in taking risks in such matters.

    Boy they got me huh :D
     
  19. the Tester

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    I used the free version and before that the paid version and I didn't see any difference.
     
  20. danny9

    danny9 Departed Friend

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    I too have chosen not to use it anymore.
    As to your opinions about paid users and what Kevin said; my thoughts exactly.:)
     
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    It is possible that he said what he did in good faith, but that things have not turned out that way.
     
  22. Acadia

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    I would bet that Kevin is ten times more frustrated at the situation then anyone here is. :doubt:

    Acadia
     
  23. twl845

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    How many times have we paid full price for something only to see it on sale a week later. If anyone paid for their copy of BOClean, and now finds it free, just chalk it up and don't whine about it. Be glad for the new subscribers who get it free.:D
     
  24. danny9

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    When you as the creator of a product sell it, ownership and all rights get transferred to the buyer.
    Kevin new this.
    He made the decision to sell for his own best interests.
    He is an employee now.
    I believe Comodo keeping Kevin was an attempt to pacify the then current users.
    As in most companies today, everyone is replaceable.
    Now that Comodo got what it wanted, I believe Kevin will eventually be gone from Comodo.
    But all this, poor Kevin, he didn't mean it and he wouldn't forget his long time users is B.S.
    This is not Kevin's BOClean, but Comodos.
    Comodo runs the show, and as an employee, Kevin does what he's told.
    The old days are gone now folks. Time to move on.:cool:
    Dan
     
  25. mercurie

    mercurie A Friendly Creature

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    Yes danny9 this certainly crossed my mind too. I would not be surprised at all if that is exactly the way it is. We are speculating but it should not be ruled out. We should not blind ourselves to the realities of what may be happening and all of us BOClean users should at least consider a plan B approach (move on).

    I have.

    I would urge others to not marry themselves to the BOClean solution for their own protections. The real problem for some, choices are limited for free realtime protection. For those who can afford to buy. I would suggest starting now with a back up plan just in case they are also unhappy as time goes on. Start planning now. If things work out great, if it doesn't move on. Just my approach others I am sure think differently.

    One final addition to my comments: Kevin did sell to protect his interests, I also believe he sold so BOClean would continue and not go the way of TDS.
     
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