From Windows to Linux, Part 5: Mail clients

Discussion in 'all things UNIX' started by Mrkvonic, Oct 31, 2014.

  1. ellison64

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    Im not sure how familiar you are with claws ,but you may want to open software manager and type in claws.You should then see a list of plugins for claws mail.You will probably want the fancy plugin which allows html (allow remote content) to be shown.Personally i installed the fancy plugin,the bsfilter plugin for spam.After youve installed whatever plugins you want,open claws mail>configuration>plugins and load them.Then click the preferences under the configuration tab and scroll down to plugins and youll see all the options for the plugins youve loaded.Iuse the everaldo kids theme.At least it brightens the gui up a little :)
    On windows 7 i use becky mail and have left all my emails in that and addresses.In linux i just add addresses as i go along.My most important mail in becky in windows is serial numbers for programs I purchased for windows ,so thought it pretty pointless to put them in claws on linux, as i may not use windows at all at some point.
     
  2. RockLobster

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    Yes installing linux packages can be a truly delightful experience.
    If you have masochistic tendencies.
     
  3. ellison64

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    Your not wrong there :). Thats why I usually try to install stuff after Ive had a few.I can then convince myself its the wine thats causing the installation problems and not my stupidity :)
     
  4. RockLobster

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    That does sound like a good reason for a few glasses of wine :)
     
  5. summerheat

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    Setting it up is not as straightforward as in Thunderbird. But once done it is, indeed, very fast and reliable. Its filtering possibilities are excellent although I'm not sure if it's really superior to Thunderbird (particularly if you use the FiltaQuilla add-on).

    However, I'm still missing some things. For example, I access/synchronize the Lightning calendar in Thunderbird with the calendar in my email account via CalDav as I also do with my iPhone. Hence, the calendars on all my devices are always in sync which is a nice feature. I haven't found a way how to do this with the vCalendar in Claws-Mail. Any suggestions?

    EDIT: Another issue is what someone mentioned here. In Thunderbird external references are blocked by default. But in HTML mails it's often necessary to allow them - otherwise those mails are broken/not really viewable. However, I've installed uBlock Origin in Thunderbird which blocks ads and tracks. As a matter of fact I've blocked everything in the global column of ub0's Dynamic Filtering and only create noop rules in those cells of the local column which are absolutely necessary (which means that in most cases all 3rd-party references remain blocked). This degree of granular control is not possible in Claws-Mail, AFAIK.

    Sigh. Considering everything what I said above I sincerly hope that Thunderbird will have a bright future. So far I haven't found an equivalent replacement for it.
     
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  6. summerheat

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    Btw: If vCalendar in Claws-Mail doesn't support CalDav I would be willing to use a stand-alone calendar application. I've tried the ones mentioned here but none of them suits my needs. KOrganizer is supposed to support CalDav (and I'm using KDE anyhow so it would be an obvious choice) but this feature simply doesn't work for me. Which doesn't surprise me - all kdepim/akonadi based applications have been buggy one way or the other. Are you aware of other alternatives?
     
  7. ellison64

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    I don't have the vcalendar plugin active as I don't use the function.Apparently it supports webcal but Ive never used it so don't know about it really. I'm also not sure what you mean about blocking external references in an email?. I use adguard for website browsing but have never blocked anything in an email?.I guess i,m pretty simplistic in my choice of email clients (claws mail/becky).All i require of them is to receive and send email and be very reliable in that capacity.Claws and becky do that very well.
     
  8. summerheat

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    External references are not relevant in normal text-based emails. And even in HTML mails Thunderbird and Claws-Mail (using the Fancy plugin) block them by default for privacy reasons. But in some cases you have to allow them. For example, if you booked your holidays on the internet (Expedia or whatever) you will receive emails from them (if you don't filter them as spam). Some offers therein might be interesting for you, and in most cases you have to allow external references as images etc. are fetched from a remote server. The problem is that in many of those marketing mails some kind of email tracking by 3rd-party services is done which affects your privacy. Now if you allow external references in the Fancy plugin in order to make such a mail viewable, all external references including those 3rd-party trackers are allowed. In Thunderbird using uBlock Origin, however, you have a very granular control of what you allow and what you don't allow which is a big advantage privacy-wise. This may not be relevant for you if you don't get such mails or don't bother to read them but for me it is.

    Having said that, I've noticed that the Fancy plugin does not work for all HTML mails. Some are displayed properly, some are not displayed at all.
     
  9. ellison64

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    Thanks for the information.
    To be honest Ive never really thought about web beacons in emails before.When Im using windows 7 i use spamihilator with becky to look at emails ,and with spamihilator your looking at them on the server.I then just download the emails that are valid for me.I wish spamihilator had something for linux but they don't.I understand your privacy concerns though ,and I cant see claws having a ublock add on somehow.Maybe a compromise would be to view the html emails in offline mode?. Its just two clicks (file>offline mode in claws.If any web beacons are activated I guess that they wouldn't be able to get through to their intended servers?.
     
  10. summerheat

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    No, that doesn't work. In this case I wouldn't be able to see the pictures which I want to see as all remote content would be blocked.
     
  11. ellison64

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    Hmm....thats strange Ive just switched to offline mode and opened some spam html emails ,and content is shown.Whats strange is that i can click links in the email and that content is also shown.If i try to get new mail , i get the popup saying it cant because im in offline mode.I assumed that downloading an html email would show all thats in it ,in offline mode but not allow to click links in it to show more content.Ill have to check more to see if this is a bug or something that ive missed
     
  12. summerheat

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    @ellison64 : This site describes what I was talking about, and here's a good example. Those 3rd parties are all blocked with uBlock Origin's Dynamic Filtering in Thunderbird. In Claws Mail I don't know how to do it once I allow external references for that mail.

    EDIT: The way how I do it is similar how it it is done here.
     
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