Floppy Drive no longers works on Linux (Ubuntu)

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  1. Mr. Y

    Mr. Y Registered Member

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    The Floppy Drive no longer works on Linux!

    Oddly enough the Floppy Drive works under WINDOWS 7!!!- Sure glad I only use Linux as a hobby and don't take it seriously....
     
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    Troll? I think so...
     
  3. linuxforall

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    LOL! my old Yamaha card works in Linux from day one, x64 bit that is. From the very day of MSx64 OS, the card was condemned so I guess I would declare all Windows OS are good for hobby only. What a hoot.
     
  4. J_L

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    What you have is a specific driver problem, and lame mentality. The floppy drive isn't needed these days anyways.
     
  5. Mr. Y

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    Floppy Drives used to be an integral part of PC's - That is not true of Yamaha cards. And you are using the (still) special case of x64 OS. Looks like you are missing the point.

    Microsoft is maintaining backwards compatibility clear back to it's roots. Microsoft is still the Standard to be compared against NOT Linux (for better or worse).

    I am not against Ubuntu- But I am against the Conceptual/Philosophical design decisions that are being made with each upcoming Ubuntu version that are alienating the common Users.

    The decision to stop supporting floppy drives is one of those decisions.

    Don't the statistics show that Users are fleeing to more friendly flavors like Mint 12?

    I only claim to be one of the common casual frustrated Users who has switched over to Mint 12.

    Canonical is really screwing up and they would be wise to pay attention to the common casual Linux users who also use Windows 7 and XP.
     
  6. linuxforall

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    Thus spoke M$ troll, standard to be compared with LOL!

    FYI, the same Yamaha 724 chipset is still the bread and butter of many motherboards with integrated sound card so if there are no x64 drivers for it, one is done for. Btw, x64 is the norm and MINT however good it may claim to be is nothing but a Ubuntu clone with a different shell. Of course Linux gives one that choice unlike others. Said and done, Unity is new and and therefore it will take time to grow on many, that don't mean progress will stop.

    Floppy support is kernel level decision, nothing to do with Ubuntu per se.
     
  7. vasa1

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    I think Mark Shuttleworth has achieved more in his life than his critics collectively have in theirs.
     
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    It would be nice to know from someone educated in the field if floppy support has actually been removed? Floppy's aren't something I use, so I wouldn't know. No offense for taking the 2 people having a troll war with a grain of salt.
     
  9. sparviero

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    -if you are using external USB floppy drive open terminal and type:

    udisks --mount /dev/sdi

    -if your floppy is not /sdi type in terminal dmesg | tail, find your floppy and repeat udisks command.

    Have a nice day...
     
  10. Mr. Y

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    Thank you for the help!

    This is what I got when I typed: dmesg | tail

    [19340.783403] sr 1:0:0:0: [sr0] CDB: Read(10): 28 00 00 00 00 10 00 00 02 00
    [19340.783413] end_request: I/O error, dev sr0, sector 64
    [19340.783418] Buffer I/O error on device sr0, logical block 8
    [19340.786921] sr 1:0:0:0: [sr0] Result: hostbyte=DID_OK driverbyte=DRIVER_SENSE
    [19340.786924] sr 1:0:0:0: [sr0] Sense Key : Illegal Request [current]
    [19340.786927] Info fld=0x10, ILI
    [19340.786929] sr 1:0:0:0: [sr0] Add. Sense: Illegal mode for this track
    [19340.786933] sr 1:0:0:0: [sr0] CDB: Read(10): 28 00 00 00 00 10 00 00 02 00
    [19340.786940] end_request: I/O error, dev sr0, sector 64
    [19340.786942] Buffer I/O error on device sr0, logical block 8

    What does it mean?
     
  11. sparviero

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    CD/DVD ? defects at digital restriction management, audio cd's ? defective discs may not be readable through normal I/O calls? area that is unreadable on your cd/dvd ?
    -try dmesg | grep sr0

    I try to explain a little better for floppy.

    -to find floppy after you run the command "dmesg | tail", search for lines like this: 512-byte logical blocks :[1.47 MB/1.40 MiB]

    admin@lulu:~$ dmesg | tail
    [15918.128108] sd 5:0:0:0: [sdh] 2880 512-byte logical blocks: [1.47 MB/1.40 MiB]
    [15919.088173] sdh:

    -then do the command:
    admin@lulu:~$ udisks --mount /dev/sdh
    Mounted /org/freedesktop/UDisks/devices/sdh at /media/D286-3483
    admin@lulu:~$

    -and valhalla, floppy drive works [at /media/D286-3483]on Linux (Ubuntu)

    Have a nice day...
     
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  12. vasa1

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    Thought-provoking comment or just provoking?
     
  13. linuxforall

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    And thats why he is DA MAN and his critics just raving lunatics ;)

    if one is so hell bent on floppy support, all one has to do is recompile the kernel with it, no need to cry, after all this is LINUX we are talking about.
     
  14. rrrh1

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    Well the last 2 motherboard's I purchased did NOT support a floppy drive natively. I guess you could use a USB floppy, have not seen many of those lately either.

    So I think it's a moot point, like beating a dead horse.

    rrrh1 (arch1)
     
  15. Mr. Y

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    There has not been any IDE support on new motherboards for the last 8 months or so either.
     
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    What I finally got to work for me as a "work-around":

    Type this in a terminal to mount the floppy drive: udisks --mount /dev/fd0
    But I have to unmount and re-mount the floppy drive if I want to use a different floppy disk.

    The earlier suggestion for using a USB floppy drive also works.

    Anyone have any suggestions to simplify the "unmount and re-mounting"?

    Thank You!
     
  17. linuxforall

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    Install pysdm from the repos and set the options for automount there.
     
  18. Mr. Y

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    Thank You!
    I will check it out!
     
  19. Mr. Y

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    I installed pysdm and the floppy drive does not show up on pysdm.
     
  20. Alphalutra1

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    Location:
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    Code:
    ls -alh /dev | grep fd
    Floppy's should (if I'm remembering this correctly) show up in dev as fd* devices. If it isn't in the directory, the kernel you are using does not have support for your floppy drive compiled in or loaded as a module. You'll have to search in google to see if linux has the driver support for it, and if it does, the name of the module that you'll have to load for support. Once you know the name of the module, type:
    Code:
    sudo modprobe nameOfModule
    and the device should appear in /dev.

    Cheers,

    Alphalutra1
     
  21. Mr. Y

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    This is what I got in the terminal:

    orbiter@orbiter ~ $ sudo ls -alh /dev | grep fd
    lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 2012-02-07 16:28 fd -> /proc/self/fd
    brw-rw---- 1 root floppy 2, 0 2012-02-07 16:28 fd0
    lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 15 2012-02-07 16:28 stderr -> /proc/self/fd/2
    lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 15 2012-02-07 16:28 stdin -> /proc/self/fd/0
    lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 15 2012-02-07 16:28 stdout -> /proc/self/fd/1


    What does it mean?
    Is the floppy drive owned by root? Could that be part of the problem?

    Thank You!
     
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