Firefox's massive overhaul moves to beta

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  1. ronjor

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    http://www.ghacks.net/2014/08/28/public-key-pinning-in-firefox-32-to-protect-against-mitm-attacks/
     
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    Firefox 32 "final" is available on the Mozilla FTP site and also at MajorGeeks :thumb:
     
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    Firefox was just fine around version 15 especially the layout and also the lightness. It seemed to get bulkier and superfluous after that and go downhill.

    For instance the refresh icon was conveniently located in each tab but later had to go right to the other side of the page to refresh which was made worse by large resolutions and widescreen monitors. The refresh tab is now on the left but in a less good position.

    They took something good and ruined it.
     
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    "Ruined"? You can (for instance) download a "refresh" icon from the extensions site and place it anywhere you want on the navigation bar.
     
  9. siljaline

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    Mozilla have pulled the release from the FTP as it's BETA. Major Geeks, well. :isay:
    There's no current release notes nor is "32.0" appearing via Internal Update.
    When the folks at Mozilla are ready - Fully localised versions (in your language)
    https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/all/
     
  10. Victek

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    Yes, I see that the FTP folder is no longer accessible. The question is why was the file in the release folder in the first place? Note that when installed the Firefox "About" box simply say Firefox 32 and makes no reference to beta. I'm not saying your information is wrong, but I am saying that we should be able to trust what Mozilla posts on their own FTP site. As for the internal updater it's not uncommon for there to be some lag time.
     
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    @ Victek

    Mozilla had intended for the FTP to be available for those that knew the consequences of running Alpha and pre-release software. Everyone looks at the FTP these days for "sneak" information on releases not ready for prime time. They've at least put a mechanism in place that tells you "We aren't quite finished qualifying Firefox 32.0 yet." when you point at the FTP.

    Sites like Neowin and Major Greeks clearly violate user trust by posting BETA software and calling it FINAL
    At least Neowin posted BETA release notes in lieu of "not available yet".

    The amount of users that get duped into running BETA software instead of actual final releases in many cases is brought by sites mentioned wanting to drive traffic & and overzealous posters in Forums like this wanting to show they've got something to say when they're actually doing a disservice to the community.
     
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    Well, 32 is there:

    ~ URL Removed. Not Announced Officially Yet ~
     
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    I understand what you're saying, but that doesn't correspond with the labeling of the Mozilla FTP site folders. In the Firefox section each beta version has its own folder, such as ""Firefox 32.0b1" whereas the final version is simply "Firefox 32". As a rule that folder/file doesn't exist until the build is finalized. Assuming that you're correct this is the first time I've downloaded a file from a release folder that was not the actual release. I don't think it's unreasonable given the folder labeling scheme to expect the file in the folder not labeled as a beta to be the release version.
     
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    The Mozilla FTP has the D/L but it's against TOS to point at it here. You would have to ask Mozilla directly as to the numbering convention on the FTP as I rarely use it. It makes sense in a Mozilla kinda way.

    Version 32.0 with full release notes will be available on the localised link Tuesday.
    https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/all/
     
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    For the record I did not point to the download - if by point you mean link to it - I simply said the download was available. Regarding the numbering convention used on the Mozilla FTP site, there is no need to ask about it as it is perfectly clear. While I understand that you prefer to wait for the official announcement I believe that Mozilla making the file available for download on their public server also constitutes an announcement.
     
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    Not strictly on topic but I updated my ESR24 to ESR31 (after backing up the old data), Also the possibility I may move back to the apid release, spent an hour or so restoring old theme as best as could, is now done reasonably well with exception of tabs that are too tall so take excess room up.

    However I then wanted to see if ESR31 improved stuttering on a page that tests some scrolling images, very disappointed to see it immediatly crashes the browser, oh dear.

    Anyone else can test this page?

    http://testufo.com/#test=photo&photo=alien-invasion.png&pps=960&pursuit=0&height=0

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    I solved the gpu issue by disabling FXAA in NVidia global settings, but this build of firefox seems to have some odd issue where its consistently doing some bg processing every 8 secs or so as the cpu usage spikes when its idle or active every 8-13 seconds. This will cause stutters in scrolling etc. So I think I am going back to v24.
     
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    FYI. Firefox 33 Beta 2 released September 9, 2014. Also available via internal updater.

    The Firefox Beta page's Free Download button will download Firefox Setup Stub 33.0b2.exe (238 KB).

    The Download Firefox Beta in your language page downloads 33.0b2.exe's.

    Added info: Firefox 33 for Developers.
     
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    FYI. Firefox 33 Beta 3 released September 12, 2014. Also available via internal updater.

    The Firefox Beta page's Free Download button will download Firefox Setup Stub 33.0b3.exe (239 KB).

    The Download Firefox Beta in your language page downloads 33.0b3.exe's.
     
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    FYI. Firefox 33 Beta 4 released September 17, 2014. Available via internal updater.

    The Firefox Beta page's Free Download button will download Firefox Setup Stub 33.0b4.exe soon (not available @ the moment).

    The Download Firefox Beta in your language page downloads 33.0b4.exe's.
     
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    FYI. Firefox 33 Beta 5 released September 19, 2014. Available via internal updater.

    The Firefox Beta page's Free Download button downloads Firefox Setup Stub 33.0b5.exe (238 KB).

    The Download Firefox Beta in your language page downloads 33.0b5.exe (available 9/22/14).
     
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    FYI. Firefox 33 Beta 6 released September 23, 2014. Available via internal updater.

    The Firefox Beta page's Free Download button downloads Firefox Setup Stub 33.0b6.exe (239 KB).

    The Download Firefox Beta in your language page downloads 33.0b6.exe.
     
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    FYI. Firefox 33 Beta 7 released September 25, 2014. Available via internal updater.

    The Firefox Beta page's Free Download button downloads Firefox Setup Stub 33.0b7.exe (239 KB).

    The Download Firefox Beta in your language page downloads 33.0b7.exe.
     
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    FYI. Firefox 33 Beta 8 released September 30, 2014. Available via internal updater.

    The Firefox Beta page's Free Download button downloads Firefox Setup Stub 33.0b8.exe (239 KB).

    The Download Firefox Beta in your language page downloads 33.0b8.exe (available 10/02/14).
     
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