Firefox 5 in June

Discussion in 'other software & services' started by elapsed, Mar 20, 2011.

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  1. elapsed

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    On that note, what on earth is wrong with having a Home button? It seems like it's considered a red-headed stepchild, everybody is trying to lose it. As far as the social crap, I'm afraid that's a battle we're losing. Enough people want the stuff that browsers, websites and increasingly more types of programs are plastering it all over.
     
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    according to the article there still is gunna be a home button, its just gunna be in the tab bar
     
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    Someone at userstyles.org will figure out a way to "unpermanent" it using css.
     
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    There's a comment from Kevin Dangoor who says he's from Mozilla indicating that few of the features listed will actually make it to Fx5:
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    I know that folks from Mozilla monitor the quoted site and comment on pieces or attempt to correct misinformation.
     
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    Hopefully Mozilla is going to accelerate the review queue speed at AMO as well. If they really manage to churn out a new Firefox version at every two weeks, then 1 month and counting to extensions is going to be completely ridiculous; they're going to be breaking left and right.
     

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    I'm slightly pessimistic about their release schedule, but we'll see what happens. I agree that AMO is going to need have the whip cracked on it though. I'm actually more curious as to how the add-on devs will handle the short release times themselves. We could see some add-ons go the way of the Dodo bird, if major tweaks need to be made to become compatible, or the devs just don't want or have the time to keep up. Which could be what happened to the "NotScript" dev over at Chrome.
     
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    Some of my extensions are still not compatible. It would be fun to go to version 5 and have even fewer of them compatible. It would break the foundation of what Firefox is.
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    http://www.h-online.com/security/ne...on-slow-starting-Firefox-add-ons-1220906.html
     
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    So you would want one less choice in browsers? It sounds that way, when reading your post (I'm not attacking, just wondering about your feelings).
     
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    I have some of the slower ones, lol, ABP and NS. Those and BetterPrivacy are all I ever run anyway.
     
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    Ironic that FastestFox is the 8th worst offender. o_O

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    Not at all. It's just producng versions to compete with the rival is silly. It's like saying who makes more babies. Who cares? It's all about QUALITY. Firefox is popular because of its extensions. If you can't have those, it loses its major advantage. The quick cycle so you can "show" how you progress is nothing but yet another hype.
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    Now I see what you mean. Well, sadly we live in "If Chrome does it this way, so will we" times. It's not really a knock on Chrome, but if I want "Chrome-like", I'll use the original. If any of them adopts something from one another, it honestly should be NoScript functionality. That alone would benefit users far more than new ways to present tabs, social functions (this one ~ Snipped as per TOS ~), even hardware acceleration. I'm still not certain whether Mozilla can shorten their cycle so much, they're getting good at delays. Again though, we'll just have to see.
     
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    I must admit that I've wondered about this. Does Chrome even need a NoScript functionality with its sandboxing? I honestly don't know.

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    Now I'm saying this as a person who does no thorough testing and goes by what is read, but the answer still seems to be yes. Chrome still seems to be fairly vulnerable in this area, though one could argue that the sandbox does lower the danger/damage. How much, I simply don't know. I have two reasons for wanting NoScript functionality in all browsers. One, for the obvious security reasons. Two, though others are able to whitelist scripts (Chrome seems to fail here, as it still seems to be an all or nothing deal. You can whitelist websites, but all scripts on those sites are allowed, 3rd party and all.), it's a major pain to do so. Simply turning scripting on and off cannot keep you safe, imo. If you need to whitelist scripts, it's far easier to right-click NoScript and choose which scripts you need, while keeping all others from running. It won't be that way in other browsers, I'm sure. But, if there is at least a list of scripts somewhere in the browser settings when scripting is turned off, it can help with whitelisting not being such a PITA, and, most important, it would give all browsers a boost in security.
     
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    It's only 1%, you actually made me look at that list thinking "wtf" how could it possibly cause a slowdown, then realized it was right at the bottom. :D

    I highly doubt it's needed. I don't even use it in Fx, though, never been much of a fan of it.
     
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    Lol, I'll edit my post. It doesn't even look right to my own eyes now.
     
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    Apparently, you have not read the rationale behind the decision to have a shorter release cycle. Please do.
     
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    Check the versions page for that add-on, it's possible that the developer has updated it but it's still stuck in the review queue.
     
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