Finally, almost affordable SSD speed

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  1. ThunderZ

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    SSD coming to desktop near you. :thumb: Starting to save my pennies. :D Thanks Samsung
     
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    Working now it seems. However after reading through the forums it would seem someone else has beat me to it.
     
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    Hi,
    Looks good - especially the lifetime of 100 years. Finally a hard drive you need not worry about dying on you ... Buy 5-6 of those, disperse them inside your towers and forever run thy computer...
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    You certainly wouldnt buy them for their speed.

    Or their price.

    As an example a RAID array with 3 reliable HDDs for a lesser total price,(around $270)would give about triple the performance.

    And for about $90,you can equal or better the speed with one HDD in IDE mode.
     
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    Yea I was thinking the same thing. But the real application for this is in laptops. Lower power consumption and more robust to bumps etc.
     
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    For specialised applications which are subject to impacts-would make sense if the price and capacity ever becomes realistic -cant see it happening quickly.

    Otherwise no-still be cheaper to buy 4 new drives in the unlikely event of impact damage.

    Drives are becoming "greener" as regards power consumption-but may be important if running off the battery I suppose.

    Videocams could also benefit .
     
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    Finally looked into the performance specs. myself. Very disappointing to say the least. :( Also read an article stating that laptops, Dell I believe offer these drives for premium $$$$, have a higher customer return rate then their counter parts.

    Guess I`ll just have to save my pennies for some other PC goodie. :rolleyes:
     
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    Could be partly to do with the limited write cycles – flash-memory storage will often wear out after 300,000-500,000 write cycles, while many log files and other commonly used parts of the file system apparently exceed this over the lifetime of a computer.
    Flash drives dont last forever-check out the specs on yours.

    Read about the disadvantages here,as considered by Fujitsu.
     
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    nearly all technology is flaky and expensive at first.
    i am looking forward to solid state drives.
    its gonna be a while thou.
    fujitsu has got it spot on.
    intel are releasing some soon.
    hard drives are in long need of replacement.
    if you have powerful hardware if you notice any slowdown most likely its the hard drive .
     
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    Very true. In newer mid to high-end PCs the hard drive is the bottleneck remaining.

    A good Friend of mine did some reading up on these. His conclusion on the so-so performance was that they are using a different memory material then what has been is being used in the more expensive business grade SSDs.

    I guess if we want the real performance SSDs we will have to wait a while longer or spend the $$$$$ for them. o_O

    Guess I`m gonna have to wait. :doubt:
     
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    In my case it takes 0.007 of a second to access the data sought.
    Read/Write 200mb/sec.
    Is that a bottleneck?

    The biggest bottleneck would have to be internet access.

    Forget SSds for the medium to long term,maybe for ever.
    Electronics is littered with ideas which everyone went crazy about,then proved to be impractical
     
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    Two different things in the context of this discussion. Although I continue to be amazed at how many people run out and buy high-end PCs and expect it to increase their "dial-up" Internet speed. Many still can not distinguish the difference between their computers speed and the limitations of the type of connection.
     
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    Hey,
    are you seruios? people buy a new high end pc and except it to speed up there dialup? XD
     
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    Unfortunately I am not kidding. They are the same people that either buy the cheapest PC and are pissed-off when it will not play the newest games :mad: or buy the latest and greatest to e mail and surf a little. The later group are the ones who expect the dial-up speed increase as well. :argh:

    I have tried to explain to many people. The ones who only use their PCs on line, they just can not comprehend using it for anything else off line. Music, digital photos, etc.
     
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    I'm going to exchange my laptop 100GB 7200rpm Seagate hard drive and choose OCZ Core 32GB SSD.
     
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    Your choice, of course. But I'd like to point out that the Seagate drive has a 5-year warranty versus a 2-year warranty on the OCZ.

    I love to hear the rationale behind this:
    "no moving parts" - "superior reliability" - "no defragmentation required so the lifespan of the drive is increased" - "1.5 million hour MTBF".........all backed by a warranty that's actually SHORTER than that offered by the likes of Seagate/WD on their "old tech" drives.

    Personally, I am not buying into the hype until the manufacturers of these things are willing to back their longevity claims with a reasonable warranty period. I mean, offering a 1 or 2 year warranty sort of undercuts the claim that the drive will last '20 times longer than an HDD'.
     
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