February On-Demand Predictions

predictions are almost never correct, there is always suprises.

but yeah some people do, im more interested in the product updates for dr.web, the features of version 5 sound sooo sweetly, and cant wait to see the new GUI (whenever this may be)

 

Ok:-some AV's will not do as well as expected,and users/fans will make excuses for them! and some AV's will do as well or better than expected and users/fans will gloat about it! How's that for a prediction(lol)

 

Steve1955,

Prediction = in the future, you're just repeating the past history, oh.., OK, I guess we can expect history to repeat itself in this case

Cheers,

Blue

PS - my prediction is that there will be results, and all too much will be read into the extremely fine differences and distinctions. Now if the folks reading these tests would just listen to IBK for a moment.....

 

Blue:-You seem almost as cynical re these(any test!) tests as me!
Merry xmas all of you:-no matter which av you use

 

I do believe that IBK's test is more than just fine.

Like many numerical results in many contexts, people tend to believe them to the level of significant figures shown. They fail to appreciate that the "accuracy" of any test is not necessarily tied to the "precision" of the measurement. This is true in measurements on physical systems and in tests of AV performance. AV tests also have the added complication that both the test subject and test bed are fluid entities.

IBK does try to moderate this tendency by providing a scoring metric based on broad categories (STANDARD, ADVANCED, ADVANCED+). I think even he'd allow that this is an incomplete picture, although probably the best one that can be provided without taking account of an individual readers situation and hardware. If only people would take some of the salient points made by IBK in his FAQ to heart, I might be a little less cynical. However, my view is not of the test itself, but of the reader reactions to the results of the test.

Blue

 

I cant find the tests on av-test.org

 

seconded
Any AV that achieves the "STANDARD" mark is already very good. If those engines also owns other certifications you can be sure that is good.

 

Go to av-test.org/index and at the top you will see that Andreas Marx is listed at the top of the list.

He does the pcwelt.de/news/sicherheit tests that you will also see discussed on this board.

(From www.av-comparatives.org/weblog/
ITW-Test by AV-Test.de
December 18th, 2006

(from same av-test.org) "AV-Test.de released an ITW Test."

 

AV Comparatives February Predictions

For the On Demand tests. I have been hanging out alot at the sites most verify detections at to check for accuracy or FPs. From what I see up till today here are my predictions.

This group will look very strong, not ranked in any order.
Avira
Bitdefender
Dr Web
Kaspersky
F Secure
Nod32

The ones still not showing me much are,
Avast
Avg
F-Prot
Norman
Fortinet
Virusbuster
ArcaVir

 

Re: AV Comparatives February Predictions

id like to see drweb bump up to advanced, i will be happy then.

advanced+ will only be a bonus.

the others im intersted in are AVG, F-PROT and FORTINET.

not including the multi-engines, i see something like this:

1. Avira
2. Kaspersky
3. Symantec
4. Bitdefender
5. NOD32
6. AVG
7. Dr.Web

sure, ive put dr.web at 7, but all are very good still in my opinion.

all above 90 percents, my prediction.

 

Re: AV Comparatives February Predictions

mine:
1.Avira
2.Kaspersky
3.NOD32
4.Bitdefender
5.Dr. Web

Not including multi-engine AV like F-Secure, G-Data AVK and others...

 

Re: AV Comparatives February Predictions

Dr Web and Avira are really hitting the hueristics of late so FPs are going to be high. Nod is looking better at trojan detection but still not as high as it could be. Bitdefender is the one that may be a shocker when it is all said and done.

 

Re: AV Comparatives February Predictions

Its funny, you can see the ones that are detected based on hueristics just by who finds them. Kas and F Secure are always left out of those, but when Kas get this ability, heaven help us. Also when it comes to trojan detection, the best 3 are Kas, F Secure and Bitdefender. With Avira and Dr Web very, very close.

 

Re: AV Comparatives February Predictions

anyone know what date the results are shown?

 

Re: AV Comparatives February Predictions

End of Feb, I think. Dr Web has really gotten strong. It and Bitdefender are really coming on.

 

Re: AV Comparatives February Predictions

1st March.

btw, all companies (eccept 2) miss now less than 8tousands from last test. So when the test starts, they are pratically all more or less equal and we will see how good they are against the stuff that was added during the last 6 months.

the test set will include over 1 million samples (if dialers, pup, polys and dos viruses are counted); in any case the windows malware (main test-set) will be a half million more or less i think.

 

Re: AV Comparatives February Predictions

i wouldnt say dr.web is strong, seems the same to me.

what dr.web offer though, is a very very good detection overall, if you include:

Mass-mailing worms
E-mail viruses
Peer-to-peer viruses
Internet worms
File viruses
Trojans
Stealth viruses
Polymorphic viruses
Bodiless viruses
Macro viruses
MS Office viruses
Malicious scripts

Script viruses
Spyware
Spybots
Password stealers
Paid Dialers
Adware
Riskware
Hacktools
Backdoors
Joke programs
Rootkits
Other malware

i think, if there was a test with all these included, dr.web would score well, its not the greatest of detections but as long as they keep improving, i will be a happy customer, i think dr.web offers a nice overall protection for users wanting to be safe on the internet, at a great price.

cool, IBK... i knew you would have your eye on this thread.

1st march is soooo far off. damn.

 

Re: AV Comparatives February Predictions

IBK, the stuff I have been watching is what has been submitted for detection results in the last 3 months. And I watch it alot. It will be fun.

 

Re: AV Comparatives February Predictions

this sounds like a good prediction to me

 

Re: AV Comparatives February Predictions

I think Avast will be 6th on the list, but maybe we are shorting McAfee. It may very well be next after NOD.

Jerry

 

Ten bits says AVG performs better than BitDefender 10. Get the pun? I do at least hope AVG does better than Avast this time with all it's improvements.

 

Well, avast! team is not just sitting there, doing nothing... And they managed to keep quiet decent detection track (ADVANCED) so far. Don't underestimate them yet

 

Re: AV Comparatives February Predictions

You haven't been paying attention If you include F-Prot under this heading. IBK did a special test on the new F-Prot comparing it to the older one and it did quite well.

 

Re: AV Comparatives February Predictions

So, almost all engines are separated by a hair But, 8,000 samples missed

 

No love for Dr Web? Well then I guess we'll have to see what detection improvements version 5 brings. They are not going to be using the beta version (4.33.3) are they?