FDISR Rescue

Discussion in 'FirstDefense-ISR Forum' started by LoneWolf, May 26, 2008.

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  1. LoneWolf

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    Any opinions?
     
  2. ErikAlbert

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    FDISR Rescue is the Eunuch of FDISR.
     
  3. quark59

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    It is a really basic one shot recovery deal. I like the simplicity, but I think it's too simple for my tastes. I'd like one or two more snapshots available than it has. I've used it once already to recover from my upgrade to sp3 that didn't fare well.
    Allen:rolleyes:
     
  4. Huupi

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    a bit better then nothing. ;)
     
  5. Peter2150

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    When I first started using FDISR it didn't have archives, and i only used one snapshot, so I was essentially using Rescue. Wouldn't have been without it.

    So to me it's a go.
     
  6. LoneWolf

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    Ouch. :D
     
  7. ErikAlbert

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    LOOOL. I'm sure you understand, that I can't use FDISR Rescue as FDISR-user, that would be a huge step back. Either I stand still or I go forward, but I never go backward.

    FDISR Rescue is good as simple solution and it can handle reboot-softwares and that is a real plus point compared with other simple solutions, but using it myself is out of the question.
     
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  8. Osaban

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    I'd like to try it with Vista. I have DeepFreeze installed, and if I try Rescue with DP thawed, would that create a conflict? What keeps me really from considering it is the bad support issues of HorizonDataSys. on the other hand being so simple there isn't much that can go wrong.

    Any suggestions? Thanks
     
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    u can add on this the HUGE price they wont :blink:
     
  10. Osaban

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    After trialling FD Rescue for the full 2 weeks on my Vista notebook I decided to buy it. In conjunction with DeepFreeze (for dangerous surfing) it really gives me the same possibilities as ShadowUser with XP. As far as testing configurations and software, it is certainly very useful. So far, I have encountered no problems whatsoever with and without DeepFreeze using Vista's default security.

    As far as archives are concerned, I don't think it is a great loss compared to the previous version if one uses a good imaging program: What's the difference between an FD-ISR archive and a ShadowProtect image? If anything an SP image offers more possibilities.
     
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    like erik said ... huge step back nothing to add more :D
     
  12. Osaban

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    Your childish comments are pathetic, but i must admit for once there are no spelling mistakes. Keep up the good work!
     
  13. Peter2150

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    Well there is a big difference unfortunately. I can do a copy/update of an archive in about 2 minutes, compared to the time for an image which is now about 7 on my machine. With a current archive, I can restore a month old(or older) image, and use FDISR and the archive to bring the machine current. So I image a lot less frequently. This is just one example.

    Pete
     
  14. Osaban

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    I'm personally not supporting the introduction of the new version of FD-ISR, but reading what it can do compared to the new version, I don't think it is a matter of life and death. Now, it is true that the mechanism of copy/update can transform any dormant archive in a ready to go current snapshot in a matter of minutes.

    But we are still in the the time span of minutes (my copy/update is between 4.5 minutes and 6 depending on how different the snapshots are, and my last SP restore was about 8 minutes). For me these aren't critical issues time wise.
     
  15. Peter2150

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    No argument from me. I went a year, when I was scared to death to do an image restore, and I relied on FDISR with no archive capability. It served me quite well.
     
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    Problem can be i you need to recover from hardware failure,everything is on the same disk though.
     
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    That was one of the reasons why i never bought FD-ISR Rescue.
    I did not mind having just the two snapshots but not having archives to save the snapshots, and copy/update them to another hard drive is a big shortfall with the program for me anyway.
     
  18. ErikAlbert

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    True. It's a pity HDS didn't keep the archives in FDISR Rescue. Only the server edition of FDISR Rescue has still that feature, but the price is way too high for a home user.
    But which NEW FDISR Rescue-user will notice this, they don't even know the old FDISR.
     
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  19. Huupi

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    Yes,we would rather stop talking about our love affaire with the old ''lady'',its a pain for any new would be user . :D
     
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    what pathetic is your sense of humor d00d ! take it easy i am just kidding around lad!

    and for my speling? wtf?! english is not my mother tongue you smart XXX

    chill out!:cool:


    * HDS post a FDISR RESCUE SERVER for about 295$ , it got archive abilty also but they skip the FREEZ option... so the projects didnt terminated totaly
     
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  21. ErikAlbert

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    Aren't there Scheduled Copy/Updates in the server version, that might start at reboot to replace a frozen snapshot ?
     
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    cant recall if there was Scheduled for copy/updates.... coz its server and got the archive back in .... i asume there is Scheduled task menager


    chers:thumb:
     
  23. Osaban

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    Without approving Leapfrog decisions, I wouldn't have bought the old version at 69 $(I think that was the price), I have known of the existence of this software for at least 3 years, and I never felt the need to even try it, as I had other solutions. The bottom line:If you have the old one, hold on to it, but you'll be surprised how many people will respond to the new 39 $ price for what they get.
     
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    -ahem- small slightly emotional rant on:
    Agree
    This is -imo- one of the critical fail points of this new FDISR: really negates the functionality: ludicrous really, not counting the 4 different snapshots I boot in and out of..
    There are plenty of "on disc' recovery options: but wot is the point if the disc dies o_O
    Still need some other back-up/image.

    It is possible that Leapfrog did not mean this to be a "restore from base tool" but that was just one left field options that popped up.

    I had a brain fizz when I saw the price at that time too. :)
    However, have come to regard it as a great buy. Saved me on multiple occasions: you have NO idea how I manage to bork my system on a semi-regular basis. Just yesterday I managed to screw up some install by not following first principles :gack:
    Saved me from literally hundreds of hours of work since purchase: my time worth well more than that. ;)

    Of course there are other solutions, but few so complete and simple.

    I regard this app so highly, If this tool was ever relaunched, I would happily pay $200 and a maintenance fee if required. ( you hear that Todd ? :D )
    Think of relative costs.
    I forked out for VMWare without a seconds hesitation when I saw what it could do.

    ( LoooL I have paid more than that over the years for NAV :D )

    The complexity and essential nature of our computer time and activities has gone from a useful typewriter/presentation/graph maker/db maker tool to an integral part of our lives ( mine anyway over the last 10 years).

    FDISR protects my home boxes and work boxes = priceless.
    ( also use an image based system on a regular basis ;) )

    I cannot afford to trust a single HW or software solution. There is too much at stake professionally and privately.
    What is your HD worth really ??

    This is what I believe HDS has failed to grasp in their marketing/ rebranding/ whatever.
    If Todd had to sell out to survive..so be it..HDS has borked it all ever since.
    LOL: if FDISR was -too expensive- to maintain, imagine how expensive RollBack has been :shifty:

    I'm not even sure the current release of The "Server" version is all that it was.

    I know there is no point going on and on about it all, but, it's like getting the perfect woodwork tool like a plane, something you buy just once in your lifetime, agonise about price... and treasure for ever.

    With any luck there will be a replacement some time.

    In all reality I will be looking at the server version if and (prolly) when FDISR becomes ood.
    Make a better mousetrap...
    Ah well, life rolls on..
    :thumb:
    -rant off-
     
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  25. rwt325

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    It would help to create a separate board for FirstDefense Rescue to emphasize the fact that it and IRS are different products. I am going through the 14 day trial and like the software for it's very simplicity and speed, once I understood how it worked.. Just the job for quick daily update.

    I will still use Acronis True Image for my weekly C:\ image. I store two or three of those on two different USG HDs. ATI has all the bells and whistles I want and mor, but is slow to backup and takes an age and a half to restore.
     
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