FBI seeks Apple's help unlocking phones of suspected Pensacola naval station gunman

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  1. mood

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    FBI seeks Apple's help unlocking phones of suspected Pensacola naval station gunman
    January 7, 2020
    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-new...ing-phones-suspected-pensacola-naval-n1111636
     
  2. zapjb

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    The 3letters already can gain access. They are playing possum & or trying to get more permissive rulings from the courts to use in other instances. For when they genuinely can't get into devices with uncooperative companies unlike roll over like a pet dog apple corp.
     
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    FBI asks Apple to break the encryption on an iPhone again
    So far the issue has not become heated, but Cupertino has only turned over data stored on iCloud servers
    January 7, 2020

    https://www.techspot.com/news/83447-fbi-asks-apple-break-encryption-iphone-again.html
     
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    "AG Barr Calls Out Apple For Not Providing ‘Substantive Assistance’ To Unlock Pensacola Shooter’s iPhones

    In a Monday press conference, U.S. attorney general Bill Barr said the December shooting at a Pensacola naval air base...was 'an act of terrorism'... and Barr called out Apple for not helping the Department of Justice (DOJ) to unlock the gunman’s phones:

    'We have asked Apple for their help in unlocking the shooter’s iPhones. So far Apple has not given us any substantive assistance. We call on Apple and other technology companies to help us find a solution so that we can better protect the lives of Americans and prevent future attacks,' Barr said at the press conference..."

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/lisett...lock-pensacola-shooters-iphones/#59fcd27c341f


    NB: During the press conference, Barr stated that the alleged terrorist-shooter tried to destroy his iphones by shooting them -- the FBI was able to repair them -- the attempted act of destruction has heightened the perceived value of the phones' content.
     
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    Apple rejects claims it did not provide assistance in Pensacola shooting probe
    January 14, 2020
    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...nce-in-pensacola-shooting-probe-idUSKBN1ZD074
     
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    POTUS steps in and ups the pressure on Apple to backdoor the Pensacola gunman's phones.

    "We are helping Apple all of the time on TRADE and so many other issues, and yet they refuse to unlock phones used by killers, drug dealers and other violent criminal elements. They will have to step up to the plate and help our great Country, NOW!..."

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1217228960964038658
     
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    Apple Takes a (Cautious) Stand Against Opening a Killer’s iPhones
    January 14, 2020
    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/14/technology/apple-iphone-pensacola-shooting.html
     
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    "Apple Takes a (Cautious) Stand Against Opening a Killer’s iPhones

    The Silicon Valley giant is preparing for a legal fight over encryption, even as it works to reduce tensions with the Justice Department...

    ...there is frustration and skepticism among some on the Apple team working on the issue that the Justice Department hasn’t spent enough time trying to get into the iPhones with third-party tools, said one person with knowledge of the matter...

    The Pensacola gunman’s phones were an iPhone 5 and an iPhone 7 Plus,..

    Those phones, released in 2012 and 2016, lack Apple’s most sophisticated encryption. The iPhone 5 is even older than the device in the San Bernardino case, which was an iPhone 5C...

    ...tools from at least two companies, Cellebrite and Grayshift, have long been able to bypass the encryption on those iPhone models.

    Security researchers speculated that in the Pensacola case, the F.B.I. might still be trying a brute-force attack to get into the phones. They said major physical damage may have impeded any third-party tools from opening the devices. The Pensacola gunman had shot the iPhone 7 Plus once and tried destroying the iPhone 5,...

    Security researchers and the former Apple executive said any damage that prevented third-party tools from working would also preclude a solution from Apple...

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/14/technology/apple-iphone-pensacola-shooting.html
     
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    So why is Barr blowing so much smoke at Apple ?? (Umm -- Using a high-profile/flag-waving case to push his pro-backdoor/anti-encryption agenda)

    "Security experts say U.S. can crack iPhone 5 and 7 passcodes

    The FBI Can Unlock Florida Terrorist’s iPhones Without Apple"

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...ock-florida-terrorist-s-iphones-without-apple

    "As Justice Department Pressures Apple, Investigators Say iPhone Easier to Crack

    Security experts question necessity of latest battle over encryption as new tools emerge

    The escalation of a long-running encryption conflict between the Justice Department and Apple Inc. has puzzled security experts who say that new hacking tools have made it possible to gain access to many of the company’s devices in criminal investigations..."

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/as-jus...gators-say-iphone-easier-to-crack-11579010143
     
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    Yes exactly as I said. TY for posting.

    The 3letters are playing possum & or trying to get more permissive rulings from the courts to use in other instances.
     
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    Mnuchin urges Apple, other tech companies to work with law enforcement
    January 15, 2020
    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...es-to-work-with-law-enforcement-idUSKBN1ZE1Q7
     
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    Cellebrite -- a company that unlocks encrypted iPhones will unlock an iPhone 8, 7, or older for $5,000.

    "Experts say iPhones are easy to unlock, so why is the FBI demanding Apple's help?..."

    https://www.foxbusiness.com/technology/fbi-pensacola-shooter-iphone-apple
     
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    "iPhone hacking firm updates tool amid Apple-FBI spat

    DIGITAL forensics firm Cellebrite has released a new tool that could be used to access data on the iPhones at the heart of the latest spat between Apple and the US' Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI)...

    The tool uses an exploit called Checkm8 that enables access to chips running on iPhones released between 2011 and 2017. Cellebrite, owned by Japan's Suncorporation, said its latest version of the tool works with the iPhone 5S, first sold in 2013, through the iPhone X, sold in 2017..."

    https://www.businesstimes.com.sg/technology/iphone-hacking-firm-updates-tool-amid-apple-fbi-spat
     
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    This Apple-FBI Fight Is Different From the Last One
    In 2016, the iPhone encryption debate ended in a draw. Don't count on 2020's scuffle over the Pensacola shooter's devices to play out the same way.
    January 16, 2020

    https://www.wired.com/story/apple-fbi-iphone-encryption-pensacola/
     
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    BINGO.

    "In both cases it seems clear that the Department of Justice is trying to identity the most politically advantageous case in which to press a longstanding desire, which is that companies reengineer their products to allow easy surveillance," says Ben Wizner, director of the American Civil Liberties Union's Speech, Privacy, and Technology Project.
     
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    It's never been easier for the FBI to hack into an iPhone
    https://www.wired.co.uk/article/fbi-iphone-hacking
     
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    Justice Department official sees 'fertile ground' for encryption legislation in wake of Pensacola shooting
    https://www.nationthailand.com/edandtech/30380743
     
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    Civil liberties groups back Apple against FBI in Pensacola iPhones case
    January 17, 2020
    https://9to5mac.com/2020/01/17/civil-liberties-groups-back-apple/
     
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    Fertile?
    It's like the law makers in the land of the "free" are rubbing their little hands in glee that this tragedy happened
    so that they can get what they want.
    Pretty disgusting :gack:
     
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    "Apple Reportedly Dropped Plan to Allow Encrypted iPhone Backups Following FBI Complaint...

    Apple is one of the few companies that invest a lot in protecting customer information. But according to a new report from Reuters, the company had dropped a plan to allow users to encrypt iPhone backups on iCloud following complaints from the FBI two years ago.

    Apple was apparently working on a new system, codenamed Plesio and KeyDrop, which would allow users to encrypt their iPhone backups on the cloud, preventing FBI from accessing their personal information, even with a court order...

    A former Apple employee told Reuters, “Legal killed it, for reasons you can imagine.” Apple apparently didn’t want public officials to attack the company for protecting criminals..."
     
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    FBI Pensacola investigation still hasn't accessed shooter's iPhone
    February 5, 2020
    https://appleinsider.com/articles/2...tigation-still-hasnt-accessed-shooters-iphone
    Bloomberg: FBI Says It Still Can’t Access Data on Florida Shooter’s iPhone
     
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