European ISPs to record all emails and calls

Discussion in 'privacy general' started by lotuseclat79, Apr 7, 2009.

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  1. lotuseclat79

    lotuseclat79 Registered Member

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    ISPs to record all emails and calls.

    A controversial new regulation comes into force today, that extends existing EC directives on data retention from telecoms providers to ISPs.

    -- Tom
     
  2. Nebulus

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    This is old news, the EU directive was voted a long time ago. Of course, that doesn't make it a good directive...
     
  3. dw426

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    It's a non-issue Lotuseclat79, for a couple of reasons:

    1. ISPs generally keep logs already, usually for at least 6 months before purging even without a law requiring it.

    2. What they want recorded is already recorded not only by the ISP, but also the software itself (Skype, Outlook, and the like).

    Basically this law is saying "Keep doing what you are doing, but do it for a longer period of time". Many will get upset and paranoid though over the story because they aren't aware of the previous two facts.
     
  4. emmpe

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    Right, but it means that more snoopers will have access to the data for a longer time, and consequently abusive use is certain; also this EU directive defines minimum requirements but may serve as an excuse for governments to implement more draconian legislation. Personally, though, I'm more pissed off by the fact that it's we the users who will have to pay for this - and I bet it won't come cheap. It's like being forced to spit in your own face.
     
  5. dw426

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    Every law has a loophole that allows abuse and further legislation, that's what happens when man writes laws. That's not to say your point is dismissible, you make a very good point and I EXPECT further legislation to happen. And yes, you can be sure that the costs of storage will be put right into the laps of customers.
     
  6. lotuseclat79

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    My point in making the post was that it came into force, i.e. it is in effect as of April 6, 2009, and thus became a reality with legal regulation rather than volumtary support by an ISP. Just marking a point in time - a good trivia question in the future, eh?

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  7. andyman35

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    Personal freedom and liberty has been systematically eroded for quite some time now,slowly though so as not to wake the masses from their contented slumber.;)
     
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    Something really really bad will eventually happen that will once again make us aware of the need for personal freedom and respect for the individual. One form of protest is to use a service like Xerobank, which is what I use. I would also consider using some kind of end to end encryption, but it's hard to find anyone who is willing to mess with it. So I still don't have the slightest idea how to do it.
     
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    your not wrong there :mad:
    no doubt this is another measure in the fight against the threat of terrorism, although I'm starting to think it's terrorism threatening used by governments we should be more wary of.
     
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