Eset Smart Security Poll

Discussion in 'polls' started by Cutting_Edgetech, Oct 24, 2010.

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Which of the following below options should be 1st priority for improving ESS?

Poll closed Oct 31, 2010.
  1. Improvements, and additions to the Firewall (explain)

    2 vote(s)
    8.3%
  2. Improvements, and additions to the AV (explain)

    1 vote(s)
    4.2%
  3. Adding cloud base analysis

    3 vote(s)
    12.5%
  4. Adding a HIPS

    1 vote(s)
    4.2%
  5. Adding AE (anti-executable)

    1 vote(s)
    4.2%
  6. Adding a BB (Behavior Blocker)

    4 vote(s)
    16.7%
  7. Adding a sandbox

    11 vote(s)
    45.8%
  8. Adding a dropbox for sending unknown files directly to Eset

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  9. Other (explain)

    1 vote(s)
    4.2%
  1. Cutting_Edgetech

    Cutting_Edgetech Registered Member

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    This was my first poll, and i wanted to better explain the purpose of this poll. I was not aware the poll question was limited to only a few characters
    Which of the following above options should be 1st priority for improving Eset Smart Security? If you could only choose one then which one would it be? Which one is most important to you? Which one should be done 1st before doing anything else? When posting on this poll please only write about which one you choose should be priority. It will make it much easier to see which one is most important to the majority of Eset users. By voting in this poll you are in no way stating there is anything wrong with Eset Smart Security. You are only contributing feedback to help improve an already great product.
     
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  2. ALookingInView

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    Sandbox because, in my opinion, it'd balance security and usability the best.
     
  3. mack_guy911

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    firewall and sandbox are very important

    specially sandbox because if your antivirus firewall fail then sandbox still prevent your windows base system to get infected

    also what happen if your get vulnerability in some software like for example flash and it make your system vulnerable on net if its behind sandbox even if become infected still in jail environment and virtual environment cannot make your system infected or your real flash player

    so why not have it as last defence protect your system if every thing else fail :thumb:

    last and main thing i like to add every other option is there to block if block fail it might compromise your system where beauty of sandbox is it doesn't block and still it protect your system

    (ie. dont block virus....etc it just dont let it interact with real files so its kinda make virus....etc fool by letting do what they want to in virtual jail environment)
     
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  4. Cutting_Edgetech

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    Sandboxes are very effective, but not full prof. There still is a small chance that some new malware could break out of the sandbox. It may be a small risk, but i have seen it happen. I prefer using Shadow Defender or Returnil Virtual system over just sandboxing certain applications from the OS. It's stronger protection. I should have added Virtualization as one of the options in the poll. I just didn't think of it at the time. Yes, a good sandbox is an effective means for blocking attacks.
     
  5. Woodgiant

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    Hello Eset-Users
    It's hard to choose only one, but anyway my choice is a : Adding AE (anti-executable). I am a little bit surprised that I actually choosed that function o_O
    The Adding AE (anti-executable) function should work with a whitelist so any unknown programs to Este will be limited and maybe send to Eeset to be analysed, so other Users can take there precautions.
    In that way we could have a built in drop-box in the AE (anti-executable) feature.
    And thanks Edgetech for making this poll. :)
    Best Regards
     
  6. 3GUSER

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    Just my 2 cents - If you would like to achieve something with this poll (or at least try to achieve) the vendor should participate in this type of discussion . Otherwise it is just voting (I want something , somebody else wants else , and so on...) . In ESET's NOD32/ESS for Windows there is not just one thing that must be added or improved - there are many things ; and in a suite like ESS you can't just improve ONE thing , ALL things must be improved and worked on at the same time.

    There are rummors that they are working on version 5 which should appear in the middle of 2011 (perhaps as BETA?) - really have no idea and details , just rummors. Perhaps they have some protection strategy , ideas to work with . However , as you may know , they are not that type of AV vendor who actively work with people and testers in public while preparing new versions , updates , etc (of course they do work but IMO not actively) . So , what I was trying to say is that this poll should be made that ESET parties who can really make something participate in it . Otherwise it would be a poll with no effect

    Good luck :)
     
  7. ALookingInView

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    Yes, but System Virtualization isn't immune to vulnerabilities and malware either.
    Also, losing downloads would be much less painful than losing downloads, work, etc. after a restart (for the average Joe/Jane ESET customer who'd end up learning the hard way how virtualization works).
    Usability must be kept high or the product won't be/stay a mainstream/highly profitable one.
     
  8. guest

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    Voted Other: the priority should be improving the impact on system resources, performance and detection rates in a way that makes the product a industry leader in all relevant tests.

    How to do that is Eset's specialists task, I personally don't consider myself able to point out which specifically feature(s) Eset ESS needs to have to reach that goal.
     
  9. SweX

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    I voted for a Behavior Blocker
     
  10. Cutting_Edgetech

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    Yes, virtualization is not immune to attacks, but if you use it with an AV/AE or an AV/HIPS then you would not have much to worry about. Add a Firewall, and that's about as protected as you can get without having thousands or even millions of dollars in your budget. If you still get infected then it would most likely be due to user error. As far as loosing downloads or your work after rebooting should not be a problem in most cases. This should never be a problem for home users. I rarely ever take SD out of shadow mode. I have exceptions set to save my bookmarks, and downloads. I usually save most of my work to one of my External Drives. The only time I take SD out of shadow mode is for Windows updates, and installing new software. Work could be a different story depending on what type of business you work for, and what your job title is. If your employer choose a good Virtualization software you should still be able to create exceptions to save your work. We use DeepFreeze at work, and our network has thousands of computers on it.

    BTW.. I do use Sandboxie from time to time. I like it, but I have a different strategy for staying infection free. I prefer SD, SU, or Returnil.
     
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  11. stratoc

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    I too voted other, resources and stability. It's still very light, I tried nod 32 last week a noticeable slower start up.
    They can go two ways, follow the pack and start adding sandbox, hips etc.
    Or go back to being lean and mean, The current resource usage has lost touch with what the competition is doing. IMHO.
     
  12. ALookingInView

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    You could replace the word "virtualization" with "sandbox" in your statement and it'd still hold true. Well for the average Wilders member, not for the average user.

    I also think a Sandbox is more user-friendly and closer to foolproof.
    And user-friendliness is huge (anything less and they've transformed their successful suite into an an all-in-one for geeks only, their bottom line the BIG loser).
    This logic would completely rule out a Classic HIPS, probably an AE, and probably Full System Virtualization as well.

    An effective "Smart HIPS" (apparently Symantec calls their SONAR technology this, no idea if they coined the phrase) or "Smart BB" (a BB on autopilot?) could also work out well though.
    Again, just my 2¢.
     
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  13. Cutting_Edgetech

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    I posted the purpose of this poll in the first post. I do not believe this poll is a waste just because Eset is not participating in the poll. Yes, I do believe they should be involved in the poll. At least here at Wilders we are doing everything we can to make clear our security needs, and what we want in the next generation of ESS. I only allowed the user to vote for a very limited amount of change or improvement because I do not believe Eset would be willing to work on everything as you mentioned. I do not work for Eset so i can not speak for them, but that would be a huge task to undertake. So this was more geared around seeing what was most important to the majority of Eset users. That is a more realistic goal. This poll was just meant to show what Eset should do first. I do believe Eset is looking at the data from this poll even if they are not participating by interacting in it.

    BTW.. I voted on improvements, and additions to the firewall. I seriously thought that would be a 1st priority issue for the majority of Eset users. It appears i was wrong. I would have never known this without the poll. So i hope everyone votes in this poll to see what is most important to the majority of Eset users. That is valuable information to have as a company! At some point you have to listen to your customers or you will find yourself out of business.
     
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