LMAO. You are so out of touch with reality. Eset has millions of consumers using version 4 and all are happy. Why dont you stroll over to the Avira Support Forum Here and count the number of requests for help in the last 2 days. It aint no different my red eyed friend. Eset is no better or worse then all of them. If you are so dis-satisfied with them, just let me know and I will get you over to the Avira side. Because Eset is still moving right along in positive fashion, with or without ya.