Errors installing LNS 207 on Windows 8.1

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  1. Phant0m

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    Hi jb3. Welcome to Wilders.

    You said "I then uninstalled, rebooted, reinstalled, rebooted, and now I don't have any connectivity if the LnS driver is checked under the Ethernet adapter properties page. Both wireless and wired adapters don't work when the driver is enabled." <--- this sounds like something different. It wouldn't be if you said the Internet filtering stopped working, but you said your Internet connectivity is blocked when the driver is enabled... Wonder if there was blocked packet loggings on the Look 'n' Stop Log Tab / screen. Unchecking 'Internet filtering enabled' on the bottom of Look 'n' Stop - 'Internet Filtering' Tab / Screen didn't return your Internet connectivity?


     
  2. Jared123

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    Outpost was installed before Look N Stop was installed,but I don't use any of the hips in it.I just mainly as a firewall only.I tried uninstalling Outpost and and Look N Stop and just installing Look N Stop still same problem.Its most likely driver incompatibility.Look N Stop driver needs to be updated.I do get a warning in Eventvwr says something like this: A TDI filter (\Driver\lnsfw1) was detected. This filter has not been certified by Microsoft and may cause system instability.
     
  3. Jared123

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    When the Look N Stop driver is enable with no internet.The Look N Stop application cannot find any network adapters,but after exiting the program and disabling the look n stop driver and renabling it.It will then find the network adapter.Like jb3 said when installing Look N Stop it doesnt ask permission during the install for the network driver.Which all the previous windows os there was a popup for it.
     
  4. Phant0m

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    @Jared123. Uninstall Look 'n' Stop, reboot. Then in Device Manager with 'Show Hidden Devices' set, clean up all of those Look 'n' Stop drivers. Apply the maximum network filters which is 14 (registry change) - http://www.chicagotech.net/VPN/maxfilters.htm

    Restart the computer. Install Look 'n' Stop product, take screen (or preferred Window) captures of any errors that might show up-to the point Look 'n' Stop launches. See if that helps.

    .... If you can uninstall Outpost during your testing phase, it might help. And verifying after uninstalling it and re-booting, and with 'Show Hidden Devices' set in Device Manager, that the Outpost driver doesn't exist anymore.
     
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    Warning, but the driver still gets loaded though. Plus, that is the Application filtering driver which you says works anyways. :)

     
  6. Jared123

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    I uninstalled Look N Stop and Outpost and rebooted.Went to Device Manager and to show hidden devices there were none left over Look N Stop entries under network adapter after the uninstall.So I did the registry fix Max network filters and change it to 14 and rebooted then installed Look N Stop without Outpost and still no internet connection or network adapter listed in Look N Stop.I also ran a new adaptlist and heres what I got this time:
    Software Loopback Interface 1
    MAC Address: 00:00:00:00:00:00
    IP Address: 127.0.0.1
    Interface type: IF_TYPE_SOFTWARE_LOOPBACK (24)

    Microsoft Kernel Debug Network Adapter
    MAC Address: 00:00:00:00:00:00
    IP Address:
    Interface type: IF_TYPE_ETHERNET_CSMACD (6)

    Dell Wireless 1703 802.11b|g|n (2.4GHz)
    MAC Address: f4:b7:e2:ae:02:bb
    IP Address:
    Interface type: IF_TYPE_IEEE80211 (71)

    Bluetooth Device (RFCOMM Protocol TDI)
    MAC Address: 00:00:00:00:00:00
    IP Address:
    Interface type: IF_TYPE_OTHER (1)

    Bluetooth Device (Personal Area Network)
    MAC Address: f4:b7:e2:ae:02:bc
    IP Address:
    Interface type: IF_TYPE_ETHERNET_CSMACD (6)

    Microsoft Hosted Network Virtual Adapter
    MAC Address: 56:b7:e2:ae:02:bb
    IP Address:
    Interface type: IF_TYPE_IEEE80211 (71)

    Microsoft Wi-Fi Direct Virtual Adapter
    MAC Address: 16:b7:e2:ae:02:bb
    IP Address:
    Interface type: IF_TYPE_IEEE80211 (71)

    Microsoft Wi-Fi Direct Virtual Adapter - Look 'n' Stop Driver
    MAC Address: 00:00:00:00:00:00
    IP Address:
    Interface type: IF_TYPE_OTHER (1)

    Microsoft Hosted Network Virtual Adapter - Look 'n' Stop Driver
    MAC Address: 00:00:00:00:00:00
    IP Address:
    Interface type: IF_TYPE_OTHER (1)

    Dell Wireless 1703 802.11b|g|n (2.4GHz) - Look 'n' Stop Driver
    MAC Address: 00:00:00:00:00:00
    IP Address:
    Interface type: IF_TYPE_OTHER (1)

    Microsoft Kernel Debug Network Adapter - Look 'n' Stop Driver
    MAC Address: 00:00:00:00:00:00
    IP Address:
    Interface type: IF_TYPE_OTHER (1)

    Realtek PCIe GBE Family Controller - Look 'n' Stop Driver
    MAC Address: 90:b1:1c:86:4c:fe
    IP Address:
    Interface type: IF_TYPE_ETHERNET_CSMACD (6)

    Microsoft Wi-Fi Direct Virtual Adapter - Look 'n' Stop Driver
    MAC Address: 00:00:00:00:00:00
    IP Address:
    Interface type: IF_TYPE_OTHER (1)

    Microsoft Hosted Network Virtual Adapter - Look 'n' Stop Driver
    MAC Address: 00:00:00:00:00:00
    IP Address:
    Interface type: IF_TYPE_OTHER (1)

    Dell Wireless 1703 802.11b|g|n (2.4GHz) - Look 'n' Stop Driver
    MAC Address: 00:00:00:00:00:00
    IP Address:
    Interface type: IF_TYPE_OTHER (1)
     
  7. Phant0m

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    Is Look 'n' Stop Protocols filtering disabled?
     
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    Yes protocols filtering is disable.When I installed Look N Stop there where no errors while installing it.I do use two plugins arp and editrawrule 64bit versions.I ran that loadorder and got 4 for tdx,12 afd, 13 lnsfw1. Thank you for your help trying to get this resolve.
     
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    Unfortunately I've ran out of things to suggest.

    So If I understood correctly. When there is no Network Interface listed in Look 'n' Stop, the Internet connectivity is blocked, not able to surf the web....? If this is the case, almost sounds like the Packet filtering driver is denied / blocked in Windows 8.1 and breaking Internet. By doing that procedure to have it work, it is only a momentary deal. Windows 8.1 might not be liking how the old driver functions, pretty restrictive and may be blocking the driver. http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/hardware/jj128255.aspx

    Sorry I couldn't offer more.
     
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    No problem.I want Thank You for helping me even though we couldn't get it resolve.I can always use Look N Stop for application filtering :).Until somebody finds a work around for Windows 8.1 or just use a different firewall.Thanks again for your help :thumb: .
     
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    I wonder what would happen if you tested Look 'n' Stop when booting up with “Disable Driver Signature Enforcement” mode.
     
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    Doing a little research. Apparently Windows 8 adds bunch of filters.

    Anyways... MaxNumFilters when NOT set allows unlimited number of filters. I think is this way by default. Therefore I wouldn't use MaxNumFilters. :eek:

    When making this change and re-booting. You have to either uninstall and reinstall the product or do just the network driver. :)
     
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    I'm afraid disabling “Disable Driver Signature Enforcement” mode had no affect on Look N Stop reinstalling it after disabling it.I change the maxnumfilters back to default and rebooted still the same.
     
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    Apparently 8.1 update breaks various network filtering products. Must be something logged in EventViewer somewhere to indicate problem. :doubt:
     
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    Log Name: System
    Source: AFD
    Date: 10/30/2013 5:41:38 PM
    Event ID: 16001
    Task Category: None
    Level: Warning
    Keywords: Classic
    User: N/A
    Computer: R2D2
    Description:
    A TDI filter (\Driver\lnsfw1) was detected. This filter has not been certified by Microsoft and may cause system instability.
    Event Xml:
    <Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event">
    <System>
    <Provider Name="AFD" />
    <EventID Qualifiers="32768">16001</EventID>
    <Level>3</Level>
    <Task>0</Task>
    <Keywords>0x80000000000000</Keywords>
    <TimeCreated SystemTime="2013-10-31T00:41:38.305534400Z" />
    <EventRecordID>5084451</EventRecordID>
    <Channel>System</Channel>
    <Computer>R2D2</Computer>
    <Security />
    </System>
    <EventData>
    <Data>\Device\Afd</Data>
    <Data>\Driver\lnsfw1</Data>
    <Binary>000000000200300000000000813E0080000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000</Binary>
    </EventData>
    </Event>



    ipconfig is blank when the LnS driver is checked. When the driver is disabled, ipconfig is correctly populated. SmartScreen filtering is disabled.
     
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  16. Phant0m

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    Are you saying when you disable lnsfw1.sys (Application filtering) driver that the ipconfig is correctly populated? Or are you disabling lnsfw.sys driver?
     
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    The LnS driver still shows up under the network adapter properties after installation. When enabled (checked), internet traffic is blocked, I get a "limited network" warning, and ipconfig results are blank. When disabled (unchecked or uninstalled) I get normal traffic and ipconfig is populated with my static IP address settings.

    It looks to me like LnS has to submit their driver to Windows for certification.
     
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    Sorry to butt in. I got Win 7 Pro on my UEFI (OEM Win8 ) PC. Took a while to find the drivers. Feels great to have Look N Stop back. My external USB 3.0 HD disconnecting issues fixed itself as well. A win-win. The Win8 desktop is an enormous struggle.

    Hope this thread finds a resolve. Thanks Phant0m, for your thorough and persistent help. :) Hugely appreciated.
     
  19. virtuo

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    Windows Server 2012 R2, same problems..

    But it's possible to make the application filtering working.
    I'm not sure if installing the LNS (or drivers) in safe mode was necessary.
    I'm starting LNS following way:
    Control Panel\All Control Panel Items\Network and Sharing Center
    -> change adapter settings
    -> wi-fi connection
    -> uncheck Look 'n' Stop driver
    Ok
    check Look 'n' Stop driver
    Ok
    and it's working!

    http://i.imgur.com/nji08iO.png




    Trying to make automatic, I experimented with local connection
    (Remote NDIS based Internet Sharing Device):
    USB tethering off
    devcon.exe disable *S4E_LNSDRIVERMP
    USB tethering on
    devcon.exe enable *S4E_LNSDRIVERMP
    manualy start looknstop.exe (LNS service already started with system,
    the same lnsfw1 - set originally to system, lnsfw - set originally to manual).
    wait few seconds.. and it's working
    - with the network connection number incremented each time.
    screenshots:
    http://i.imgur.com/Yn9qHhL.png
    http://i.imgur.com/RPYkNFp.png

    I'm not sure why the MAC address is changing..
    and why this method is not working always
    - maybe because of waiting not long enough ? ;)
    repeating it few times hangs the system.
    Waiting for conclusions.


    PS devcon shows two interfaces more when the internet is working:

    + SWD\IP_TUNNEL_VBUS\TEREDO_TUNNEL_DEVICE : Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface
    ROOT\MS_NDISWANIP\0000 : WAN Miniport (IP)
    USB\VID_05C6&PID_8017&MI_00\6&107303B0&0&0000 : Remote NDIS based Internet Sharing Device
    ROOT\MS_SSTPMINIPORT\0000 : WAN Miniport (SSTP)
    ROOT\MS_AGILEVPNMINIPORT\0000 : WAN Miniport (IKEv2)
    + SWD\IP_TUNNEL_VBUS\ISATAP_0 : Microsoft ISATAP Adapter
    ROOT\KDNIC\0000 : Microsoft Kernel Debug Network Adapter
    ROOT\MS_NDISWANIPV6\0000 : WAN Miniport (IPv6)
    ...
     
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  20. virtuo

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    .. but after windows reinstallation I can't even get this!

    Previously (R2 evaluation), I made somehow my system starting with
    all connections blocked, then after reenabling lns in network properties
    the firewall worked as expected.

    Now (31419), after start, all connections are NOT filtered,
    I need first to reenable lns in network properties,
    then to start looknstop.exe to make the filtering working.

    It seems, I have to downgrade to server 2012 not R2 first
    (with 9200.16384.WIN8_RTM.120725-1247 it was fine?),
    then to install updates one by one to find what's going on..
     
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