I am running EQsecure 3.4.1, on on WinXP Pro SP2. A quick review of kernel hooks using "Rootkit Hook Analyzer", shows that EQsecure has set 24 kernel hooks. After installing Avira free, a check of hooks reveals that EQsecurity has only 21 hooks set. The following hooks have been (apparently) disabled by Avira: 1. NtCreateThread, ZwCreateThread 2. NtOpenSection, ZwOpenSection 2. NtWriteVirtualMemory, ZwWriteVirtualMemory Avira runs the following as services on startup: C:\Program Files\Avira\AntiVir PersonalEdition Classic\avguard.exe C:\Program Files\Avira\AntiVir PersonalEdition Classic\sched.exe If I disable these services Avira does not disabble EQsecur's kernel hooks. Starting either avguard.exe, or sched.exe, immediately disables the above listed hooks (or appears to). Without sched.exe, Avira can not update. Without avguard.exe, there is no real time protection. Can anyone suggest a workaround for this issue. Is EQsecure, really being crippled? How to test?