Drive Snapshot bootable media!

Discussion in 'backup, imaging & disk mgmt' started by ams963, Jun 13, 2012.

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  1. Pliskin

    Pliskin Registered Member

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    If he has a backup on some external media like USB, DVD or external HDD, than he can install Windows, launch Drive Snapshot and restore that backup. This is quite fast for disaster recovery. And they are rare if I'm well informed.
     
  2. Scott W

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    Pliskin,

    First of all, that assumes Iron Man has a Windows installation disk, not everyone does. Even if he has the installation disk and after the long process of installing Windows, he next has to install DS. Then he needs to rely on DS to initiate the recovery process from within Windows (while it works most of the time, it has been known to fail)!

    The bottom-line is that the only sure method is via a boot recovery disk...

    Scott
     
  3. ams963

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    Thx for the info on discount Shadow. I'll try out IFW keeping in mind that sh*t happens given it's got nice and easy boot recovery system according to you guys. :)
     
  4. ams963

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    I do have a Windows Installation disk. But you're true about DS failing to initiate the recovery process from within Windows threat. :(
     
  5. n8chavez

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    This is all very strange. I don't understand the clamoring for a bootable ISO. There's no need for it, and DS is not built to handle a bootable ISO. Let me clarify, DS already provides bootable dos recovery system. So I assume everyone here means that they want a gui-driven bootable environment, such as WINPE or BartPE. If that is the case, I still don't get it. There are pages and pages of threads here dedication to the building of such gui-driven bootable ISOs as they relate to Drive Snapshot, I know because I contributed to them. If that's not enough there are instructions in this very thread about how to create them. Yes, it's work. But if you're at Wilders you've at least demonstrated the curiosity to at least attempt to create a gui-driven ISO.

    If you want an application full of eye candy, fancy guis and menus then get the overly-bloated Acronis True Image. That may or may not function when you need it to. If you want a portable imaging application that just works, put in the extra effort and get Drive Snapshot.
     
  6. Scott W

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    Nate,

    While I have no arguement with what you said (other than not needing a bootable iso o_O) some people here on Wilders just want a 'turnkey' package (one where you don't have to download and build a separate WinPE boot disk). Iron Man appears to be one of those who fall into that category.

    Scott
     
  7. n8chavez

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    There are many advantages from building and using PE discs. The ability to add whatever plugins you want, totally customizing it chief among them. No pre-built environment can offer that. Take this opportunity to make one that fits you best.

    (And because Drive Snapshot is portable, all you need to do is slap it on the PE Disc, or a flash, and you're all set)
     
  8. aladdin

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    And, the best thing about it that snapshot.exe is only 288KB.

    What a marvelous program!
     
  9. Scott W

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    No arguement from me, but you are not considering a novice who is intimidated to attempt what you are driving at...

    ...and fwiw, you don't even have to put DS on the WinPE disk - I keep a copy of snapshot.exe on my external HDD (along with my sna files), so I just bootup with WinPE, navigate to my external drive and voila!


    Scott
     
  10. n8chavez

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    I understand that. But just because you are afraid of something doesn't mean you don't try. People better themselves by the mistakes they make.
     
  11. Scott W

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    That's for sure, and it's the only truly portable self-contained image-backup program around. :thumb:
     
  12. Scott W

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    Nate, that's you (and me too), but that doesn't 'fit' everyone.
     
  13. Brian K

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    Scott,

    Have you tried restoring a Drive Snapshot image from DOS to an empty new HD? No partitions. I haven't and I assume you would need to create partitions on the new HD in advance. Any ideas?

    The reason I ask is this is the situation faced by a DS user (after a HD failure) who doesn't have a BartPE or WinPE disk. DS does have a good DOS disk for restoring images to the same HD.
     
  14. treehouse786

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    hirens boot cd has a mini xp option from where DS will work for those who dont want/cant build there own live environment
     
  15. n8chavez

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    True. It is also illegal, as it contains shareware applications.
     
  16. treehouse786

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    false, the earlier versions were illegal, the latest is clean
     
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    And I thought you were talking about turkey package. :argh: Anyways, I still prefer that turnkey package. :D
     
  18. Scott W

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    Hi Brian,

    No I've never had that need, but it appears to be very doable... http://www.drivesnapshot.de/en/restdos.htm

    Scott
     
  19. n8chavez

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    I will repeat, Hiren BootCD is illegal. I will post this link from the official page, which has the latest version, here because there is no download link on that page. ( I wonder why that can be.) Tell me that you do not see Drive Snapshot and Image for Windows among them. Neither application is free.

    Please refer to the below wikipedia entry:

    The bootcd is well-known for using cracked version of software. Please do not suggest it. Users that are looking for help do not need to be advised to use something that could potentially get them in trouble.
     
  20. treehouse786

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    i knew you were going to quote, have you even used the newer versionso_O because i have, they dont contain cracked programs, they contain trials, for example IFW is available in trial mode, a key can be added to remove trial restrictions.

    oh and by the way the latest version is 15.1 and not 15.0

    and for you to say that hirens contains cracked programs is narrow minded, its obvious you have not used the software and your going of snippets you find of the web to make your conclusions. dont quote other sources apart from yourself, prove to me that hirens contains cracked programs and i shall retract my statement and donate £10 to charity


    please tell me you realise they are trial versions? lol

    i sent my friend a trial version of IFW, does that mean i am committing an illegal act?

    edit- lets not get off-topic, PM me with your reply proving that the latest version of hirens contains cracked programs and we shall continue the discussion by PM, if anyone else has any questions about the legality of the latest version of hirens then PM me.
     
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  21. n8chavez

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    Even the fact that they used to use software should be enough of a reason to not suggest it to users, especially those looking for legitimate help. There are plenty of other, legitimate, ways to create a boot disc, which can be perfectly customized to the user. That is what would should be aiming to help with, not Hirens, legal now or not.

    Also, the fact that I only use reputable software, and that I do not use software of questionable past with legality issues, should not be see as a negative.
     
  22. treehouse786

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    i completely understand/agree with you, but saying that hirens is illegal when its not is not fair to the developer who provides this software/service for free. hirens does have a very questionable past but its just that, the past.

    if you dont thinks its wise for me to recommend this software due to the history of it then i wont out of respect, but i do think each user should make his own mind up especially when the latest version is legal.

    :thumb:
     
  23. moontan

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    treehouse:
    is that key included on the Hiren's CD?
    if it is, it's just like pirated software.
     
  24. TheRollbackFrog

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    It's as Treehouse says... no keys. I use my own keys for my products that are contained on the disk. I have also added my own keys to some of the apps available (specifically "Image For Windows").
     
  25. Brian K

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    I'm with Treehouse. Hiren's boot disk no longer contains pirated software.
     
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