Dr.Web Anti-virus 8 for Windows Released

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  1. TheKid7

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    Dr.Web Anti-virus 8 for Windows was released.
    http://news.drweb.com/?i=2960&c=5&lng=en&p=0
     
  2. The Hammer

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    Pretty reclusive. A mystery AV these days.
     
  3. lodore

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    I would use drweb if it wasnt so expensive.
    cant seem to find any good deal on it in the UK.
     
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    Hey,
    I have and at current conversion It would cost me £66 for 3 computers for one year which seems quite expensive to me.
     
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    sorry Lodore, that link is only for corporate customers. They dont offer it anymore to home users.
     
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    they kill you for adding more then one computer which is stupid because pretty much now, 3 is the normal without being chraged extra. I like Dr Web, alot, but they live in the 60s with their pricing structure.
     
  10. lodore

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    really? that sucks. I agree that the pricing should be adjusted since most home users have more than one computer now and they should introduce a family pack at a decent price.
     
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    I'm not trying to be a smart*** but how I can I know if it's reliable?
     
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    FWIW I've been using it for about a year now with no issues at all. I've found it to be very effective and reliable on all the machines I've used it on. The price though is way to high. I bought mine on some ridiculous sale.
     
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    agreed i would have renewed and still use it on some of my machines if it was not so crazy expensive. not worth it. overall i like the av and its very effective but they need to come back down to earth with the pricing something i have always said about dr web
     
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    They earn most of their money with the Enterprise/Business versions so they do not care that their Home products are not price competitive with other vendors, particularly in regions outside of the Russian market.
     
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    First, I like, really like the Web. I could care less about prices and have owned quite a few licenses over the years.

    But V8 on Windows 8 is totally ridiculous. It feels like concrete blocks on Jimmy Hoffas feet. Sorry, it is a good product and on Vista and Windows 7 may really be good, bit on 8 its hate.:thumb:
     
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    Isn't he buried under somebody's driveway in Detroit? Were you talking about Security Space or just the Av? But it's too bad the AV doesn't have the cloud and HTTP scanner.
     
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    That doesn't make sense to me. If they make the big money with their Business versions then they wouldn't mind lowering their prices for the home-users so new customers (and more $) can be attracted. I once tried their home-AV and it never seemed a bad developed software abandoned to its fate. Moreover, I see that their website seems to put a lot of emphasis on the domestic market to its AV, SecuritySpace and even its AV for Mac OS X.
     
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    The official position

    http://company.drweb.com/?lng=en (last paragraph)
     
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    The fact of the matter is that there are a lot more poor people than rich people and the only way you gain market share is by having price reductions on offers/festivals etc.

    Dr.Web's pricing structure makes it unattractive to the ordinary user who is not in a business environment. From what I know, Dr.Web doesn't really wish to compete outside Eastern Europe and select regions of Asia either.

    You can get Dr.Web at a slightly cheaper rate from this Hong Kong distributor, once associated with VirusChaser HK:

    http://www.drwebhk.com
     
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    This is not DrWeb. In Hong Kong was sold the old engine from DrWeb (v.5.0). Nothing more DrWeb and VirusChaser does not bind.
     
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    No, they are no more associated with VirusChaser. Now they are just an authorized distributor for Dr.Web (or so they claim). I know that some people from Dr.Web HK used to run the HK branch for VirusChaser before moving here, that's why I mentioned it as trivia :)
     
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    I tried it out and I like it and it seems light but could user more user-friendliness. After booting the first time the firewall pops-up about a program you have to click an UAC pop-up first to get the rule window, some other functions in Dr. Web require UAC pop-ups as well, but with the Firewall prompts it's more annoying. On the plus side, where other suites usually have an quick option to allow all traffic for the particular process and if you want it more restricted you have to create the rules manually, they're more restricted by default in Dr. Web, by default it only creates a rule for the port and protocol the process is trying to use.(Though naturally this can then lead to multiple pop-ups for a single process, but if it annoys you its easy to allow all traffic instead.) I checked out the new HIPS-like system:
    There are different levels and if you put the slider upwards more things are protected, the highest level also asks the user for drivers. Problem is, the drivers is the only thing where it will ask you, the rest is blocked with no user-interaction so some programs may not work, and you can not turn off individual categories of because it is a slider button. There also seems to be no whitelist as I got notifications that svchost.exe was blocked from accessing hosts file. So I think it can be improved by instead of having a slider button for different levels to have a custom settings as well and whitelisting trusted or at least only windows components would help a lot with the user friendlyness. I also suggest asking instead of blocking by default and perhaps the new cloud system can be used to give recommendations according to file prevalence and age or what other users decide.
     
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    I would say that such major improvements would take approximately 2 years to make, based on my 5-6 years of experience as a Dr.Web user. :)

    The new "hips" is one of the reasons why I can't use Dr.Web right now, even though I just renewed my license. It just blocks things without giving popups and/or option to allow/deny. For example, it silently blocks a dll from loading that my old faithful mIRC+nnscript combo uses and I get an error.

    It's not the install and forget, minimalistic, no bloat-no bullsh*t, trouble free antivirus what it used to be. Those were the reasons why I started to use it back in 2006 or 2007 up until now. I would do just fine with the on-demand scanner+real-time monitor+firewall and nothing else.

    Currently using MSE and w7 firewall, until Dr.Web makes that hips component more customizable or adds an option to completely disable it. Security software should operate silently and efficiently in the background without causing slowdowns, errors or any other problems. Just can't get the 8.0 to that state.
     
  24. er34

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    I fully agree with what SergM and the official position states :thumb: There is a lot of pre-sales and really a lot of after sales work. The smaller the client, the bigger the after-sale work is. The bigger the client - the bigger the pre-sales work is. IMO, DrWeb is not that expensive for users. You think it is expensive because you are used to tons of discounts other programs have. These kind of discounts are not popular is some parts of the world. Good security (like what DrWeb provides) is priceless
     
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    "Good security" is also a subjective term. When competitors offer equivalent protection at lower rates, you stand to lose.

    For example I think there are many users here who will think other vendors offer "good security". Pre-sales and after-sales work is something every vendor has to deal with; however it's a simple mechanic - lower the price, have more sales. The question is, how do you balance your budgets for R&D and marketing while still making enough money and raising sales? That's why prices aren't rock bottom but vary across vendors as per the need.

    For Dr.Web? I don't know what their specific problem is in this regard. I really haven't seen a lot of marketing from them either. But I'm sure Dr.Web as a company has less employees in number than a company like Symantec. In this case the mechanic should work for them too: 50% lower price = ~300% more sales (sometimes even more). Of course that doesn't mean they should lower the prices by 50%. It's just an example I used.

    Anyhow, Dr.Web's marketing knows best about these things and where they want to sell and where they don't want to focus their energies.
     
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