Do you tweak your installation for quicker boot times?

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Do you tweak your installation for quicker boot times?

  1. Yes, I do not feel a difference.

    9.3%
  2. Yes, I have timed that there is no difference.

    2.3%
  3. Yes, I feel it boots quicker.

    23.3%
  4. Yes, I have timed that it boots quicker.

    18.6%
  5. No.

    46.5%
  1. malexous

    malexous Registered Member

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    I am using an Arch Linux setup (modified CTKArch) that boots quickly and I do not feel the need to try to get it to boot quicker.
     
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  2. vasa1

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    Ubuntu 11.04 takes quite some time on my kit but I'm not going to figure out how to tweak it even if it's possible.
     
  3. Hungry Man

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    There are timeable differences in boot tiems with Windows 7 and measurable differences in RAM startup usage.
     
  4. J_L

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    Of course there's a difference, just compare the computers used by techies with average people.
     
  5. Hungry Man

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    I've seen people actually argue there aren't differences. I dono how they can't just disable them, restart, and see the difference but whatever haha

    Besides that I don't print from this computer or do a lot of things with it so I disable services I don't need.
     
  6. dw426

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    I tweaked my Win 7 install and disabled services that were security issues and features that were only used in certain conditions. Other than that, it's just a matter of not having a lot of programs start up with Windows. I've never timed it, but it boots up fast enough for me. Win 7 cut a lot of the services starting up "just because they can" crap. It's much better than it used to be.
     
  7. Jose_Lisbon

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    I used Autoruns to disable start ups I don't need and it made a difference.
    Also, every time I install a new program (not often) I check if it comes pre configured to start when windows starts; if so I disable that option.

    In the end the difference is not dramatic, and I don't even need a fast boot because I always have breakfest after I turn the PC on. But it's a matter of choice: I like to decide when this or that program will run or accesses the net.
    You could as well call it a matter of principle: why should you have an updater or a tune up utility (or other apps) running all the time? I call those "work when I call you" programs.
     
  8. lodore

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    I use autoruns to stop uneeded third party programs from starting with windows.
    windows 7 starts quite fast on my desktop machine. the main thing slowing it down in the old style bios. my next motherboard will have an UEFI bios so the boottimes will improve because of that. I mostly use sleep mode and only have a cold start when i need to reboot due to a software update.
     
  9. Dark Shadow

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    No I tweak services for security reasons but quicker boot ups is nice to.Personally I prefer a quicker shut down,my dell laptop boots up about 30 seconds and shuts down properly always about 10 seconds.
     
  10. chrisretusn

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    No. I see no point in it.
     
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    I see no point in it, too. ;)
     
  12. Hungry Man

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    The point is to reduce startup usage of RAM/resources as well as removing local security threats.
     
  13. dw426

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    Yes, but as I'm sure you are well aware of, from being in this forum a bit, is that everybody has their own opinion on what is and isn't a threat. Not all of us stare at task manager either and consider it a hit list of targets to vanquish :D
     
  14. Hungry Man

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    If you don't use a service it's providing nothing to you but RAM usage and an attack vector.

    Whether one of those things or both matters to you.... there's really no reason not to disable, say, the spooler service if you never print.
     
  15. nikanthpromod

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    yes , remove unnecessary startups..:cool:
     
  16. Sully

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    I always modify my systems, heavily. For me it comes down to whether I really need something or need to autostart. I would rather know what is going to start, and allow those things I feel I need only. If I use something once a month, why would I want it to run every day? Others have different needs, so what I do might not make sense.

    There is a distinct difference in system sluggishness when tweaking things. You may not recognize it globally, but you can specifically. There is no doubt in my mind at all, on any NT bases windows OS, that I can make it not only boot faster but also perform faster my manipulating certain aspects, such as services. However, being faster is not always the most productive if you have to start many items to get work done. Sometimes convenience trumps speed in productivity.

    Sul.
     
  17. chrisretusn

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    The questions is "Do you tweak your installation for quicker boot times?"

    I do not tweak my computers to reduce boot time, because I see no reason to do so. It is a pointless and a waste of time task.

    I don't sit and my computer and constantly reboot it. I certainly do not sit here with a stop watch and time it. I turn my computers on to use them, how long it takes to boot is just not relevant, even when troubleshooting (a rare event). I also leave them running 24/7 so boot time is just not an issue.

    There are plenty of things I "could" do to decrease my boot time, I just don't see a need. I have plenty of memory, so resources is not an issue.

    My guess is "removing local security threats" refers to daemons, services that start as part of the boot process. While the end result my have an impact on the start time. I don't view this as something to go after to reduce start time. I do view it as a minor security issue (inside my LAN) and unneeded ones are turned off.
     
  18. Hungry Man

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    Fair enough.
     
  19. Spysnake

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    In XP days, I tweaked a lot, because resources were scarce. However, nowadays, my only real "tweak" seems to be installing a SSD drive. Windows 7 is pretty much tweaked already. But, I answered yes anyway, because I still seek fast boot times.
     
  20. Osaban

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    My notebooks boot in about 40 seconds (to see the desktop) and shut down in about 14. It's fast enough, and besides most of the time I keep them in sleep mode during the day, which makes their recovery almost instantaneous. I think boot times are useful to monitor as a general indication of good functionality.
     
  21. noone_particular

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    A lot of the tweaking and modifying I do to my PC will cause it to boot up faster, but none of them are for the specific purpose of speeding up boot times. There are more changes I could make that would speed it up more, like enabling fast bootup in the BIOS, but I'd rather have the full system check. Even with fast boot disabled, 20 seconds after I push the power button the desktop and system tray are ready and the system is idling. Plenty fast enough for a Pentium 4. IMO, tweaking or modifying just to improve boot up times is pointless. Unless I'm modifying or installing, or want to switch to another OS, I rarely ever need to reboot.

    If this is for an app that you don't use everyday, you can always make a batch file or script that will start all of the needed components first, then the app itself. Several years back, (2005 I think) I was trying out Bit Defender as a manual scanner, and was completely disgusted to find that an AV that was strictly a manual scanner added 4 autostart entries. After some checking, I found that only 2 of them were needed for the scanner to work, so I wrote a batch file that launched those 2 processes first, then started the scanner. Depending on the apps you're working with, you might be able to have it both ways, reduced autostart and system load with no loss of convenience.
     
  22. NRProia

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    Hello,

    I run Fix-It Utilities 11 Professional, and it comes with PC Startup Analyzer and Startup Commander. I admit that I haven't done much with these tools, but I did perform an initial scan and disabled the RemoteAccess and RemoteRegistry services due to security risk.

    Regards,

    Nathan
     
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