Defensewall Questions

Discussion in 'other anti-malware software' started by trjam, Nov 24, 2007.

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  1. trjam

    trjam Registered Member

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    I just starting using and really like it. At least it covers my Outlook where Sandboxie couldnt due to the DSL pop-up. My question is, why even run a AV with this, or maybe keep Sandboxie with it. But it is a very nice product and not hard to use. Also read some very good test results on it. Much prefer over Prevx.:thumb:
     
  2. Lucy

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    You don't need to run a real-time antivirus scanner. But I believe it is still a safe choice to keep an on-demand scanner on you comp (even if online scanners are another choice): see my sig - light and simple and I guess efficient.

    Concerning Sandboxie, well, it is not the same technology, but it is definitely the same philosophy... so... it is up to you to choose one of these... or to keep both.
     
  3. CJsDad

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    I tried DW with Sandboxie but kept getting conflicts between both programs.
    Everytime I would close either of my web browsers (K-Meleon & Opera) or get ready to log off, DW would show an untrusted process running which was either of the two browsers I was running at the time.
    When I removed Sandboxie everything went back to normal, I never searched this problem any further just kept DW since I paid for it.
     
  4. CogitoErgoSum

    CogitoErgoSum Registered Member

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    Hello trjam,

    I am pleased to see that you are test driving DefenseWall.

    The following links may be of interest to you.

    https://www.wilderssecurity.com/showpost.php?p=1059185&postcount=5
    https://www.wilderssecurity.com/showpost.php?p=1123469&postcount=3

    The following links best express my thoughts and feelings regarding antivirus programs.

    http://tibbar.blog.co.uk/2006/02/15/defeating_anti_virus_with_crypters~566079
    http://www.zdnet.com.au/news/securi...efeats-antivirus/0,130061744,139263949,00.htm
    http://www.computerworld.com/action...ewArticleBasic&articleId=9002695&pageNumber=1
    http://www.infoworld.com/article/06/09/08/37OPsecadvise_1.html
    http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,2040760,00.asp
    http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,2087034,00.asp
    http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9010460
    http://www.securityfocus.com/news/11446
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6431853.stm
    http://www.techworld.com/security/news/index.cfm?RSS&NewsID=9095
    http://www.technewsworld.com/story/58948.html
    http://theinvisiblethings.blogspot.com/2007/08/tricky-tricks.html
    http://threatfire.blogspot.com/2007/09/how-do-storm-and-other-current-threats.html
    http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,2205606,00.asp
    http://www.infoworld.com/article/07/11/21/Is-security-software-becoming-a-security-risk_1.html
    http://www.nruns.com/ps/The_Death_of_AV_Defense_in_Depth-Revisiting_Anti-Virus_Software.pdf

    If all goes well and you decide to keep DefenseWall as part of your security defense arsenal, I would like to personally welcome you to the club.


    Peace & Gratitude,

    CogitoErgoSum
     
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  5. Blackcat

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    In contrast, I never had a problem running the two together. Did you contact Ilya?

    With both/either of these, you could drop any real-time AV to just on-demand only. Whichever runs the lightest.
     
  6. Perman

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    Hi,

    I am still very rusty in using DW, may I ask you guys some newbies questions?

    I have IE7 as untrusted (DW's default). After I d/l programs, these apps will be contained in untrusted area. In order to install them unrestricted, should I

    remove them from untrusted or
    run as trusted ? and then proceed with installation ?

    DW runs very well with DeepFreeze, especially in DF's thawed mode. It fills in when DF is out of commission( I mean in thawed, unprotected mode).

    Take care and be happy.
     
  7. CogitoErgoSum

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    Hello Perman,

    First of all, welcome to the club. Assuming that you downloaded these programs in question to the desktop, the simplest way to install them as "trusted" would be to right-click the application's desktop icon, hover your mouse pointer over "DefenseWall HIPS" and select "Run as trusted" from the available options and continue with the installation. Later on, if you so choose, you can manually remove these downloaded programs from the "Untrusted applications" tab/window by highlighting and right-clicking the application and selecting "Remove". Keep in mind that you can highlight and remove multiple applications this way in a single operation by holding down the "Ctrl" key. FYI, you can temporarily "disable"(remove DefenseWall protection) any application in the "Untrusted applications" tab/window by highlighting and right-clicking the application and selecting "Disable". Whether you are enabling, disabling or removing an application, you must click upon "Apply" followed by "OK" which are located on the lower right-hand side of the DefenseWall GUI to finalize these settings. Lastly, if you would like to add an application with a desktop icon that DefenseWall does not recognize by default to the "untrusted" list, you can do so by right-clicking its desktop icon, hovering your mouse pointer over "DefenseWall HIPS" and selecting "Add to untrusted" from the available options. Hope this helps.


    Peace & Gratitude,

    CogitoErgoSum
     
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  8. CJsDad

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    Blackcat-

    No I haven't contacted Ilya, I just decided not to look into the problem any further.
    For one I had just renewed my license to OA2, was already using DW for about 2 months prior to renewing OA so I figured I would just stay with these two programs, not a big deal.
    I like Sandboxie, I used it for a few months on another PC, still on there as a matter of fact.
    Are you still using DW and SB together? Maybe someday I will try DW together with SB but right now I'm satisfied with the setup I currently have.
     
  9. Blackcat

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    I only asked because Ilya tries to solve EVERY problem that a user has with DW ;)

    I did run the two together for awhile without any conflicts but decided that this was overkill; I like to run as lean as I can.
    Then stay with it ;)
     
  10. CJsDad

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    Yes, I know how Ilya is when it comes to solving problems with DW, I've had to ask about a couple of them I experienced, both have been resolved :thumb:
     
  11. Ilya Rabinovich

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    And I usually fix them in case of full user's cooperation.
     
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