Deep Web

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  1. d0t

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    From what I understood, it includes all sites not indexed by search providor, like google, yahoo, etc...

    What you guys know about it? Is it safe?
     
  2. J_L

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    Depends, I think it's around the same, if not safer since malware strives to be accessible.
     
  3. dw426

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    It's really not all that interesting. I've done plenty of it, whether through Tor, Freenet or other methods. Basically if you're looking for kiddie porn, malware and anarchy websites, you're golden. If you're expecting some sort of buried treasure of things the government doesn't want you to see, secret access to some special worlds and all that jazz, you're going to be sorely disappointed.

    You don't surf the dark net for safety and regular sightseeing, I can assure you of that. By the way, it's most times slow as all get out as well.
     
  4. Hungry Man

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    No, it is not safe. There's loads of illegal content and that's not even the worst of it. 99% of the deep web will likely not interest you unless you enjoy watching executions, children having sex, or some combination of the two.

    The novelty of surfing some "unheard of" super secret area of the internet quickly fades with slow internet speeds, disgusting content, and incredibly convoluted means of navigation.

    Trust me, you're better off sticking to the "surface" web.

    EDIT: I've seen tons of stuff on the deep web. You can ask questions if you like but for the most part it's just weird and/or boring. A lot of gross stuff. A lot of drugs being sold. A few people offering to kill for money. A lot of FBI stings.
     
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    It depends, as J_L said. You and your friends can have whatever "deep web" you want to create. But if you go slumming, you will find only junk that dw426 and Hungry Man described. Some might scar you for life, like in Videodrome or Black Hole. No joke.
     
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    I have been to the Hidden wiki(dark internet or deep web or whatever) a few times just out of curiosity but i think that was just the tip of the iceberg.I dont know what else is in there and did not have the heart to go any deeper.
     
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    It's simply terminology. Yes, technically they aren't the same, but many people are referring to the same place, no matter what term they use.
     
  10. mirimir

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    When someone asks "Is it safe?", they are not referring to xyz.com's SKU database.
     
  11. nightrace

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    Safe from what? Malware? Unmasking? Corruption of the soul? It is safe as long as you practice safe browsing...no javascript, no flash and no personal details.
     
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    I do not know what d0t meant by "safe". Browsing The Hidden Wiki, for example, can be "safe" enough. However, some of it is far darker and more terrible than I had imagined.
     
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    Out of interest I installed TOR and spent some time in this part of the web.
    You are so correct, Hungry Man.
    I guess if you're a perverted drug-user who wants someone offed, it's interesting.
    BTW, I found it interesting that the TOR bundle had Firefox with Javascript off, cookies off, and Noscript already installed.
    It seems like TOR doesn't think it's so safe.
    Now to wash off the stench of Onions.
     
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    This is, how to say it, pretty interesting. The content there may be disgusting or illegal, but to be honest, I've always wondered where all these things come from.

    Good to know even for us "good" guys.

    I have to say though, that you have to have extremely good defences in place before trying out. Normal firewall + AV -combo maybe isn't nearly enough.
     
  18. dw426

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    It completely depends on what websites you go to and what you click on. It's not different from the normal web in that you still can't just go running around naked and being click happy. Just for meandering around in there and not looking for trouble, you don't need to be armed to the teeth. I'd highly advise staying far away from the obvious hacker forums/IRC and any of Anon's little cubby holes.

    On the subject of Anon though, mind your manners if you decide to risk joining in on the fun of forums and chat. There are people around this little wonderland that can run circles around Anon and Lulsec. Script kiddies interested in hacking gaming websites and defacing things ought to just not even attempt to be cute.
     
  19. Osaban

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    Reading this thread (and links) has put me in a state of anxiety. It is reminiscent of a kind of Dante's Inferno in cyberspace. The dark side of human nature really comes out with anonymity. Quite scary stuff.
     
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    Humans are a destructive, cruel and selfish species. The internet just puts a big spotlight on it.
     
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    I wonder how deep the web goes. Is there some grand oasis we haven't found yet? :argh:
     
  22. mirimir

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    Well, there's your hard drive :D

    See -http://kpvz7ki2v5agwt35.onion.to/wiki/index.php/List_of_Anonymous_Networks
     
  23. Osaban

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    I've D/L Tor which comes with a browser from Mozilla called Aurora, it is Firefox though, manage to browse some of the Deep Web, and like everybody else posting in this thread I find it uninteresting and boring. My question, why would a normal user browse with Tor the normal Internet? Anonymity can be a good protection, agreed in some circumstances but the Tor website states:

    Isn't it a bit too paranoid? Who uses Tor for normal browsing?

    Please disregard this post as I found my answers: https://www.torproject.org/about/overview.html.en
     
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  24. Hungry Man

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    There are definitely sections.
     
  25. mirimir

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    What do you mean by sections? Tor hidden services vs I2P vs Freenet vs MMORPG stuff vs various Anonet domains and other obscure P2P networks? Or something else?

    A recent comment on talk.Masked comes to mind: "The point of Tor and other darknets is increased security and anonymity. If you're here for a super secret internet club, you are 15 years old."
     
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