Crystal Security - Discussion

Re: Kristal Security 2012 [0.0.1.x Beta]

@ RADEON0101:

Hi,

Thank you for the feedback!

Here answers to your questions/suggestions:

1. Yes, it is possible, thank you for that suggestion.
It is important specially for novice users.

2. Yes, this actually mean that Real-time (On-access) objects classification is enabled.
If user disable real-time classification (protection) then progressbar will stop (continous moving).

3. Yes, i will improve it to make notifications more easier to understand.

4. Thank you for this bug report! Will be fixed.

Finally, can you tell please - what Operating System you are using?

@ KelvinW4:

Thank you for the feedback about problems.

Best regards,
Kardo

 

Re: Kristal Security 2012 [0.0.1.x Beta]

Hi,

Just like to inform that there is coming soon newer version
with improved GUI (easier navigation and better look) and also with
reported bug fixes.

Thanks all Wilders Security community members who help me
with suggestions and bug reports.

Best regards,
Kardo

 

Re: Kristal Security 2012 [0.0.1.x Beta]

For answer #1: It would also be nice to have your application call to the web for an automatic installation of .NET Framework. Example: User double clicks to install Crystal Security, Crystal Security searches system for .NET Framework, User doesn't have .NET Framework, Crystal Security then calls to the web for an automatic download and install, Once Installed...Crystal Security can now proceed with installation. I just think this would add a little more convenience for the user...Just a suggestion

For answer #2: Can I suggest maybe a Solid Green Bar that has text saying something like "Protection Enabled", "Protected" or "Objects classification is enabled". In my opinion, a continuous progress bar means it's thinking, but isn't doing anything. It may trick some novice users that something isn't working correctly.

For answer #4: I was on a Windows XP Home Edition (SP3) PC, which is specifically used for testing purposes.

 

Re: Kristal Security 2012 [0.0.1.x Beta]

Hi,

Thank you for suggestions

1. Absolutely right - i will plan to improve this and try to make it all automatic.

2. Yeah, newer version include this suggestion with word ("Protected / Unprotected") next to progressbar

4. Thank you for the info.

Regards,
Kardo

 

Re: Kristal Security 2012 [0.0.1.x Beta]

Keep up the great work man

 

Re: Kristal Security 2012 [0.0.1.x Beta]

Hi,

Some screen shots of coming version:

1. Main GUI

http://www.wuala.com/crystalsecurity/Screenshots/Crystal%20Security%202.4.0.2%20Scr1.png/

2. Alert Popup

http://www.wuala.com/crystalsecurity/Screenshots/Crystal%20Security%202.4.0.2%20Scr2.png/

Regards,
Kardo

 

Re: Kristal Security 2012 [0.0.1.x Beta]

Holy cow, The new interface looks really nice.

 

Re: Kristal Security 2012 [0.0.1.x Beta]

Hey, I hope you don't mind me doing this.

I took one of your images, and added (Edited) a protected indicator over that progress bar.

In my opinion, You don't have to follow through it of course (Since it is your product), but I just think a solid bar would be nice.

Like I said, just my opinion

Here is the image:


I just wanted to post that on here, to give you a more visual aspect of what I meant.

By the way, I appreciate all of your hard work...I think you're doing great

 

Re: Kristal Security 2012 [0.0.1.x Beta]

@ RADEON0101:

Hi,

No problem about picture.

Actually this green bar (solid) is very nice

Thank you for this amazing suggestion

Regards,
Kardo

 

Re: Kristal Security 2012 [0.0.1.x Beta]

No problem, glad you liked the idea

 

Re: Kristal Security 2012 [0.0.1.x Beta]

I love that gui

 

Re: Kristal Security 2012 [0.0.1.x Beta]

 

Re: Kristal Security 2012 [0.0.1.x Beta]

Hi,

Yeah, your suggested indicator (solid bar) is much better than
progress bar.

I will plan to add also different colours like:

-> Green colour for Protected status (with white text on bar)

-> Red colour for Unprotected status (with white text on bar)

Regards,
Kardo

 

Re: Kristal Security 2012 [0.0.1.x Beta]

Hi,

Thank you for the feedback

Regards,
Kardo

 

Re: Kristal Security 2012 [0.0.1.x Beta]

in the pictures there is a button called Settimgs, it need been correct in Settings

Interesting program, when it is out I will try it for sure

 

Re: Kristal Security 2012 [0.0.1.x Beta]

Hi,

Thank you for bug report!

It is typo and will be fixed

Regards,
Kardo

 

Re: Kristal Security 2012 [0.0.1.x Beta]

Hi,

New version of Crystal Security has been released!

Version: 2.4.0.2

* New GUI (easier to use and better look)
* Automatic updater
* Configurable (added basic settings)

Screen shots of Crystal Security

1. Main GUI

http://www.wuala.com/crystalsecurity/Screenshots/Crystal%20Security%202.4.0.2%20Screen%201.png/

2.Notification/Alert

http://www.wuala.com/crystalsecurity/Screenshots/Crystal%20Security%202.4.0.2%20Screen%203.png/

3. Settings

http://www.wuala.com/crystalsecurity/Screenshots/Crystal%20Security%202.4.0.2%20Screen%202.png/

4. Activity Monitor with menu

http://www.wuala.com/crystalsecurity/Screenshots/Crystal%20Security%202.4.0.2%20Screen%204.png/

Download link: -http://content.wuala.com/contents/crystalsecurity/Public/Crystal%20Security%202.4.0.2/Crystal%20Security%20BETA.zip

Any feedback welcome!

Regards,
Kardo

 

Re: Kristal Security 2012 [0.0.1.x Beta]

Love the new GUI, looks really clean and professional looking
Love the update feature
Love the new configuration settings

But...

Here are the problems I encountered:

Test done on Windows XP Home (SP3) 32-bit, test bed machine

1. Deny execution doesn't work on any application, I am still able to execute everything I throw at it. This should technically be denying on the fly (As the user clicks in real-time).

2. Sometimes when denying an application's execution, I get constant JIT Debugging errors.

3. By default, a program or component in the group category is automatically listed as "Whitelist", even after I changed it to deny it's execution or even to be blacklisted. The change a user makes doesn't seem to change the group or status of the application in real-time, or even after restart. Everything remains as a whitelisted program.

Basically, nothing is getting blocked on my end (Execution for everything still works), everything remains as a "Whitelist" program....Can anyone else replicate the same behavior?

A user should be able to deny execution not only for malicious files (If un-detected), but for safe applications as well (If a user desires). In my opinion, this gives the user control of every single execution on the system.

 

Re: Kristal Security 2012 [0.0.1.x Beta]

Hi,

Thank you for the feedback

Regards,
Kardo

 

Re: Kristal Security 2012 [0.0.1.x Beta]

Hi,

Critical Update released - Version: 2.4.0.3

Fixed:

* Deny execution error
* Activity Monitor bug

Download link: -http://content.wuala.com/contents/crystalsecurity/Public/Crystal%20Security%202.4.0.3/Crystal%20Security%20BETA.zip

Note: This update is also available via program automatic updates (restart for program required to get updates immediately. if update fail then please try to clean caches).

Regards,
Kardo

 

Re: Kristal Security 2012 [0.0.1.x Beta]

Ok, back to testing

Thanks for the info

 

Re: Kristal Security 2012 [0.0.1.x Beta]

The error message below pops up upon opening the program. After closing the error message, the program crashes and closes out entirely. Same thing happens every time I open the program.

Here is the error message I receive:

Unhandled exception has occurred in your application. If you click Continue, the application will ignore this error and attempt to continue. If you click Quit,
the application will close immediately.

An exception occurred during a WebClient request

See the end of this message for details on invoking
just-in-time (JIT) debugging instead of this dialog box.

************** Exception Text **************
System.Net.WebException: An exception occurred during a WebClient request. ---> System.IO.IOException: The process cannot access the file 'C:\Documents and Settings\ \My Documents\Downloads\Crystal%20Security%20BETA\Crystal Security BETA\Crystal Security Update.exe' because it is being used by another process.
at System.IO.__Error.WinIOError(Int32 errorCode, String maybeFullPath)
at System.IO.FileStream.Init(String path, FileMode mode, FileAccess access, Int32 rights, Boolean useRights, FileShare share, Int32 bufferSize, FileOptions options, SECURITY_ATTRIBUTES secAttrs, String msgPath, Boolean bFromProxy, Boolean useLongPath)
at System.IO.FileStream..ctor(String path, FileMode mode, FileAccess access)
at System.Net.WebClient.DownloadFile(Uri address, String fileName)
--- End of inner exception stack trace ---
at System.Net.WebClient.DownloadFile(Uri address, String fileName)
at System.Net.WebClient.DownloadFile(String address, String fileName)
at WindowsFormsApplication1.Form1.downloadupdates()
at WindowsFormsApplication1.Form1.Form1_Load(Object sender, EventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.Form.OnLoad(EventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.Form.OnCreateControl()
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.CreateControl(Boolean fIgnoreVisible)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.CreateControl()
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WmShowWindow(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.ScrollableControl.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.Form.WmShowWindow(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.Form.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.OnMessage(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam)


************** Loaded Assemblies **************
mscorlib
Assembly Version: 4.0.0.0
Win32 Version: 4.0.30319.1 (RTMRel.030319-0100)
CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/Microsoft.NET/Framework/v4.0.30319/mscorlib.dll
----------------------------------------
Updater
Assembly Version: 1.0.0.0
Win32 Version: n/a
CodeBase: file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/TEST/My%20Documents/Downloads/Crystal%20Security%20BETA/Crystal%20Security%20BETA/Updater.exe
----------------------------------------
System.Windows.Forms
Assembly Version: 4.0.0.0
Win32 Version: 4.0.30319.1 built by: RTMRel
CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/Microsoft.Net/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Windows.Forms/v4.0_4.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.Windows.Forms.dll
----------------------------------------
System.Drawing
Assembly Version: 4.0.0.0
Win32 Version: 4.0.30319.1 built by: RTMRel
CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/Microsoft.Net/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Drawing/v4.0_4.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/System.Drawing.dll
----------------------------------------
System
Assembly Version: 4.0.0.0
Win32 Version: 4.0.30319.1 built by: RTMRel
CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/Microsoft.Net/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System/v4.0_4.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.dll
----------------------------------------
System.Xml
Assembly Version: 4.0.0.0
Win32 Version: 4.0.30319.1 built by: RTMRel
CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/Microsoft.Net/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Xml/v4.0_4.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.Xml.dll
----------------------------------------
System.Configuration
Assembly Version: 4.0.0.0
Win32 Version: 4.0.30319.1 (RTMRel.030319-0100)
CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/Microsoft.Net/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Configuration/v4.0_4.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/System.Configuration.dll
----------------------------------------

************** JIT Debugging **************
To enable just-in-time (JIT) debugging, the .config file for this
application or computer (machine.config) must have the
jitDebugging value set in the system.windows.forms section.
The application must also be compiled with debugging
enabled.

For example:

<configuration>
<system.windows.forms jitDebugging="true" />
</configuration>

When JIT debugging is enabled, any unhandled exception
will be sent to the JIT debugger registered on the computer
rather than be handled by this dialog box.


According to this JIT log, I think it is pointing Updater.exe as the problem. I dunno, you know more about this stuff than I do...What do you think?

Another reading in the error message: It seems to be pointing out that I have two of the same processes running, which I confirmed that I am not. Everything is being ran as a single instance. I even restarted, and it says the same thing.

 

Re: Kristal Security 2012 [0.0.1.x Beta]

Which .NET is the written in? VB.Net?

 

Re: Kristal Security 2012 [0.0.1.x Beta]

Hi,

Program is written on C# (csharp) programming language.

Minimum version required is 4 .NET Framework.

Regards,
Kardo

 

Re: Kristal Security 2012 [0.0.1.x Beta]

@ RADEON0101:

Thank you for the bug report.

Yes, it is related with Updater. I just finish this bug fix and i will
release new version in few minutes.

Regards,
Kardo