yep, i know that, and i totally agree. i was addressing the vague, generic, unqualified "runs smooth", "too heavy", "really light " posts that pollute discussion in every product thread. all it would take is adding something like: "my machine boots 45 seconds slower", "this app took 15 seconds longer to start", "made my 9 year old athlon xp w/1GB of RAM slow to do anything" or something to that effect (maybe interesting, certainly reasonable data points, wouldn't you agree?) - vs - "omg so smooth" and "too heavy" and "this runs light and awesome" (which are neither descriptive nor particularly helpful.) That's a bit of a generalization and certainly isn't always the case. One such example already exists in this thread. at any rate my point wasn't that heavy/light shouldn't ever be used and that everything performs the same, my point was that saying "OMG SO LIGHT" or "OMG FAT PRODUCT IS FAT" is worthless from a discussion standpoint. that's all I'll say so we don't totally derail Coranti's thread.