Hi, I spent 3 days searching here and didn't succes, so I hope there is no similar thread, solving my problem. I have 3HDD now, one, IDE 250GB with 3 partitions, 1st 20 000MB is XP, 2nd 50 000MB Vista and 3rd is empty (after loosing it suddenly and not being able to restore it, no matters). (getting size this way because of problems listed below) Then I have SATA drive only with data. Last one, the new one i got because I'm afraid of loosing whole 1st disk by physical demage:/ It's SATA 160GB and I want to clon my 1st disk to here. I found Norton Ghost 14, tried, didn't work. The I found TI 10 and found it very useful and seemd to me very pro. Didn't work, si I started to look arround web. I found one site http://www.multibooters.co.uk/cloning.html - very helpful in understanding how booting works and also I tried "generalizing BCD" - seems to me that causes first problems After cloing disk again and trying to repair BCD from Vista DVD, I have now 4 item in boot menu. Older verzions of Win, Vista and twice Vista (restored). Then I found this forum and thanked to god for it. Great, lots of similar problems, lots of potentional solvings. No at all First I tried TI 11 - because of compatibility with vista. Because my old disk is bigger then the new one, I had to manually set size of each partition, and there I found another problem. I was setting it for 20 and 50GB, not for 20000 and 50000 MB which is smlaar then 20/50GB. I found a thread that contained solution that TI 11 is not working well with changeing partition size. So I tried partition "As is" and seemd great for me, XP and Vista partitons were the same and the emtpy one get smaller. As I wished. But it didn't wor properly. When I tried to boot from the new disk I get the same 4items menu, Xp works fine, normal Vista had problem with missing winload.exe and the one of the vista (restored) too and the second one strats to boot. BUT i showa the "processing" bar movving, then the display gets black (like turned off) and thene it lite up inblack (HDD can be heard is working) and there it get stuck. and won't move. When I plug in my old HDD it gets to Vista properly (even through the 4item menu and one of restored vista item)but still workin. The new one, JUST XP. So what I need is a proper manual at first how to fix my boot menu (to have there just two options for each system and then, how to clearly and smoothly clone my disk. for info I use Xp pro 32-bit and Vista business 64-bit. if any additional info neede, just ask. I'm lost and don't know where to go now and I really don't wone re-instal because of so much app allready instaleld on both systems. I know that this forum is really helpful, so I hope there is a hope for me too Thak you all for responds. Dweep.