Classic shell discontinuation is a real shame, I hope someone/group picks it up and keeps it going! I don't know any of the other start menu alternatives that allow you to organise your 'all programs' list how you want them, dragging and dropping files between menu folders, ordering them how you want, adding new sub menu folders, creating shortcuts etc (Startmenu 8, Start 10, Startisback++ all don't) Edit: After much testing of alternatives, I've gone for Start Menu X (30day free trial, £8 Pro) as it does pretty much everything I want it to! I'll keep Classic Shell too until Windows 10 breaks latest version!