Chinese AV company busted creating viruses

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  1. Martijn2

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    http://www.theepochtimes.com/n2/content/view/47371/

    Pretty harsh to give a death sentence for this...
     
  2. BoerenkoolMetWorst

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    Indeed harsh. I find it strange that cybercrimes these days relatively get much harsher punishment than other real life serious crimes. Not only in countries like China but also Europe and the US.
     
  3. Vladimyr

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    Allegations have been going back and forth since Liu Xu set up Micropoint.
    Most recent credible report I had seen till now was this in August: http://english.cri.cn/6909/2010/08/20/189s589785.htm

    Historically and still today, for many Chinese, better to lose one's life than to lose face.
    A death sentence (whether suspended or not) sends the "right" message both inside and outside the country.
     
  4. PJC

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    Rising (AV) Fraud! :mad:
    At least, Rising was caught. What about others? o_O
     
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    Capital Punishment People's Republic of China

    68 Crimes Eligible For the Death Penalty in China

    Death penalty cases move very fast in China apparently, probation is a good sign that he may get life imprisonment.
    I like how public opinion can generate a re-trial if too much leniency had been given. I'd like to see that aspect in the US, then maybe Madofflike crimes would lessen.

    It's a shame to see a vendor of a security product doing this and only reinforces peoples ideas that other vendors are complicit in it as well.
    First to discover and first to offer a solution surely is suspicious.

    I would assume that many vendors practicing this type of economic stimulus would not have a direct link to the malware creators but utilize some type of buffer to limit their exposure when the **** hits the fan.
     
  6. Ibrad

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    Well I guess this will put an end to the rumor that AV vendors create viruses.

    Then again this goes back to the last Rising issue where someone in the company decided to do something wrong and now the whole product is being called a fraud. You can't put a few people doing something wrong and say the whole product is a fraud.
     
  7. icr

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    Its really shocking that a well renowned company is been doing such bad attempt to increase sales:thumbd: :thumbd: :thumbd: :thumbd:
     
  8. Coldmoon

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    Just as is true of any other industrialized country, there will be incidents of fraud and corruption as the players are all human. This does not mean however that every person or company in said country is either corrupt or fraudulent.

    Don't be so quick to paint the entire country with a broad-brush...

    JMHO
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    Yu Bing took a bung.

    Almost rhymes.

    Say it over and over really fast though, a real tongue twister.
     
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    Oh my God! I cannot even find words to describe my feeling....This is repugnant, if one cannot trust an antivirus company where should trust be placed then? This is a sad day, a sad day indeed. :'(.


    Thanks.
     
  11. Kernelwars

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    very sad indeed:oops:
     
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    It is not harsh for Chinese standards. If the story is true Rising has committed a despicable crime. Preying on people fear, by a virus they created themselves, in order to make money. Then, what is the difference between Rising and a "rogue" or a "ransomware"?

    This should serve as a lesson to other rogue elements in the anti-virus industry in order for them to beware of their prospective malicious intent. They can think whatever they want but they cannot act on their thoughts if those thoughts have malicious repercussions on the public at large.

    Thanks.
     
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    The thing that is really shocking is that they were so incompetent that they got caught. :ninja:
     
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    Not really, because stuff you do generally catches up to you......It's just a matter of when, where and how :)
     
  15. Noob

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    Wow, that was a very good response! :thumb:

    Who knows what happens in the "AV" industry :rolleyes:
     
  16. Pray

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    This seems a rumor forged maliciously by someone.
     
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    This is really a rumor proved. The declaration of Rising company is as follow:

    Declaration on Malicious Rumors from Employee of 360Safe Inc.



    December 1st, 2010, Yi Wang, who works for 360Safe Inc., published articles and related comments on topic of it is not big News of Rising, Kingsoft and other security software vendor making malicious virus program for higher detection rate on its Sina Micro-Blogging.



    Beijing Rising Company officially declares that all blog articles and related comments which are concerned with Rising Company on Yi Wang’s micro-blogging are fabricated in malignity and, these intentional distorted words have seriously libeled the reputation and business reputation of Beijing Rising Company.



    Articles and related comments from Yi Wang, employee of 360Safe Inc., have seriously libeled the right of reputation and, right of business reputation of Beijing Rising Information Technology Co., Ltd. Rsing Company shall take legal approach and, prosecute legal responsibility of related individual and company, to safeguard Rising Company’s legitimate rights and interests.
     
  18. tekkaman

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    Have you wondered why viruses are cleaned by some AV's and some Av's can't detect it ? AV is a business. I don't think many individuals dedicate their lives to make viruses. AV's on the other hand can dedicate themselves to do that.
     
  19. whitedragon551

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    Rising has a good free AV and firewall. I really liked both of their free products. Atleast this isnt as bad as IOBit's thievery.
     
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    hmm, idk, i consider trying to spread fear in order to persuade people to buy ur product with viruses they made themselves is worse than theft, IMO at least, one harms a company (theft), and the other harms the people
     
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    Stuxnet Rising Chinese Connection - Forbes Blog
     
  22. discovery

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    This is an awful world! Someone can spread the rumor without any evidence.:oops:
     
  23. salooloo

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    I heard this kind of weird thing first time. If so, does any antivirus vendor create viruses and kill?
     
  24. summering

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    I have used Rising Antivirus software for almost 10 years. I think it absolutely ok.
     
  25. Samoa

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    I think Rising did so well!! Rising ‘s declaration has been issued and someone has posted above. The rumormongers will be punished by legal means. Even God won’t forgive them!
     
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