can windows 7 built in firewall block a program?

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  1. mantra

    mantra Registered Member

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    Hi
    Hi

    i can't understand why Windows 7 doesn't block VueScan ?

    i did 2 rule for C:\VueScan\vuescan.exe

    block incoming and outgoing

    i wanted to to check with windows 7 firewall control (portable)

    and when i run vuescan , windows 7 firewall control pop up that the program wants to connect to the net

    why does Windows 7 firewall built in block this program?

    thanks
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  2. kupo

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    Odd, maybe it add itself to Windows Firewall and and allow it? I know one application that does that.
     
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    Hello.

    You say:

    but then you also say:

    So does WF block VueScan or not? :doubt:
    Anyway,
    you need to select "block" outbound connections from the drop-down (screenshot), but you also need to take care for which profile you are blocking outbound (tabs in the screenhot).

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  4. mantra

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    hi
    sorry for my poor english

    windows 7 built-in firewall doesn't block the program

    windows 7 firewall control block it

    about the rules i made the same rule in the screenshot

    thanks
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    This not the rule, these are firewall settings.
    You need to enable blocking of outbound connections (as the screenshot shows), WF will then block all outbound unless you have a specific rule to allow an app.
    So you should not need any rules to block VueScan.

    No problem. Mine is not much better.
     
  6. mantra

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    but this rule is not enough under outbound rules
     

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    No, it's not. WF uses a white list approach. You have to set it to block everything and then whitelist your apps.
    Note that if you do this, you would need to create outbound rules for all your apps that need net access.
    If you need assistance I can help, but you need to decide whether you wish this approach or you prefer using a 3rd party app.
     
  8. mantra

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    thanks
    but
    this will block every programs
    like skype , filezilla , my antivirus

    and block everything won't give me pop up about if i want to allow ...
     
  9. Seer

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    Exactly. You have to manually create rules for your apps.

    No, it won't. There are some posts in this thread which suggested an info popup could be produced by using Event Viewer triggers, but an actual interactive popup is not possible with WF.

    The "block" option inside the rule creating dialog (screenshots you posted) is used only if you, for example, wish to restrict an app to local network traffic only. You then create 2 rules, one to block outbound on "Public" profile, and one to allow it on "Private". Still, you have to enable global outbound block.
     
  10. alexandrud

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    You can try and choose what you will like more. They all work in conjunction with Windows Filtering Platform.

    Windows Firewall Control (my favorite :) )- http://www.binisoft.org/wfc.php

    TinyWall - http://tinywall.pados.hu/download.php

    Wndows Firewall Notifier - http://wokhan.online.fr/progs.php?sec=WFN

    Windows 7 Firewall Control - http://www.sphinx-soft.com/Vista/index.html
     
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  12. mantra

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    windows firewall control change the w7 firewall rules

    may i ask about windows firewall notifer ?
    is like Windows 7 Firewall Control ?
    i mean does it change w7 firewall settings?
    is only a notifer like windows 7 firewall control?

    thanks
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  13. alexandrud

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    Is not only a notifier. It has full support for creating, modifying, deleting, importing and exporting of the Windows Firewall rules. It also provide a much simpler concept of profiles.
     
  14. mantra

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    so does it change the rules of the firewall?
    like Windows Firewall Control
    thanks
    cheers
     
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    This is not the best approach. Instead of allowing all programs and blocking dozens of programs, it would be better to block all and allow only the few programs that you actually use. This alternative is very rudimentary. My opinion. :)
     
  17. hogndog

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    I've been following this thread because it sounds like a good firewall application but I'm hearing conflicting stories about "free" and "not free" Could somebody please set the record straight its going to be for my XP.. o_O

    Thanks..
    Hogndog
     
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    I only mentioned it for OP as it sounded like he was only looking to block one or two programs but otherwise keeping the firewall in it's default state. You would be surprised how many people don't bother with outbound control and use the Windows firewall at default.

    Otherwise, I agree with you 100%. Personally, I use your firewall control.
     
  19. hogndog

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    This probably wasn't the best place to ask my question would a pm be better?

    Thanks..
    Hogndog
     
  20. alexandrud

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    Neither of them run in Windows XP. They are all for Windows Vista or newer versions of Windows.
     
  21. hogndog

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    I read this is why i had the question..

    Windows 7 Firewall Control is a good choice for those intending on using the Windows built-in Firewall. [Despite its name, the program is compatible with Windows XP and higher.] In a nutshell, Windows7FirewallControl allows the user to configure the Windows firewall to block or allow applications from connecting to the internet; it adds better outbound protection configuration to the built-in Firewall. It is based on the Windows Filtering Platform (which is what the built-in firewall is also based on), so unlike most other firewalls it does not install any third party drivers. The user interface is clean and simple, reflecting what this program does (ie. block or allow application access - nothing more).


    https://www.techsupportalert.com/best-free-firewall.htm

    Edit* Plus i downloaded a copy from this site but haven't installed it..

    http://sphinx-soft.com/Vista/order.html
     
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  22. alexandrud

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    "Windows Filtering Platform (WFP) is a new architecture in Windows Vista and Windows Server 2008 that enables independent software vendors (ISVs) to filter and modify TCP/IP packets, monitor or authorize connections, filter Internet Protocol security (IPsec)-protected traffic, and filter remote procedure calls (RPCs)."

    Source: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/hardware/gg463267.aspx

    So, it does not work on Windows XP, because WFP doe not even exist on Windows XP.
     
  23. hogndog

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    Not sure i understand what you mean, should i just delete the firewall from this link? If you look all the way to your right you'll see your firewall listed or isn't that your firewall? o_O

    http://sphinx-soft.com/Vista/order.html

    Thanks..
    Hogndog
     
  24. mantra

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    thanks a lot
    may ask a question , Wndows Firewall Notifier is cool , does it work like Windows 7 Firewall Control ?

    i mean does Wndows Firewall Notifier change the w7 built in rules and does it ask me to block the out going connection like Windows 7 Firewall Contror ?

    thanks
    i like the approach of Windows 7 Firewall Control
    in the free version is there a limit about the programs that can block?

    thanks
     
  25. hogndog

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    Hi alexandrud is this your firewall?

    http://sphinx-soft.com/Vista/order.html

    If it seems I'm insistent its because a firewall is going to be the most important piece of equipment on your computer at Wilders some of the best minds are gathered to test security applications so when we ask so many questions its for the benefit of all..

    Thanks..
    Hogndog
     
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