Look, if I don't ask I know I'll regret it. Try as I might, I'm too stuck in my ways (lazy?) to want to do a complete change over from W7 to Linux. Honestly it's not just about appearance \ aesthetics but functionality and efficiency. I have things tweaked down to the micron how I like it, and it works... BUT... There's a but, this W10 telemetry related assimilation into W7 just sticks in my craw. Reading the one link to the W10 forum from here in the other thread, some of the anti tinfoil members are saying how silly it is for people to be upset \ paranoid \ etc. Well, it is what it is. See that's the point of my username, I'm paranoid, but only kinda. Willing to forgo \ just not think about certain aspects that would bother my side due to convenience. So that's the long winded way of saying I took a look at Linux Mint Cinnamon and Zorin and while great OS's, it's just too much of a learning curve at this point in time. The ultimate question then, as I have images from before this past summer's W7 updates, should I just reinstall them and completely turn off updates? Can one completely shut off updates and trust that none will install under the radar? Sure you're sacrificing other potential benefits of the updates, but then maybe that will push a user like myself to keep up more on what's going on and only install the really important security related ones. Look, five paragraphs in and I'm rambling. After three here and the week is still on going. Either way I think you guys know where I'm going and what I'm looking for, as clearly I'm Not Sure!