Can some softwares make your PC faster?

Discussion in 'other software & services' started by Frankfree, May 19, 2019.

  1. bellgamin

    bellgamin Very Frequent Poster

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    True. One Exception: my computer always slows down & makes errors when I am in a hurry & call it bad names. When I relax and whisper sweet words in my cpu's electronic ear, my computer runs grrrreat! Go figure. :rolleyes:

    But seriously --- This thread got me using Anvir (love it) & I learned some stuff from you & other folks who posted. Useful thread.
     
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    Interesting. I was thinking software along the lines of Throttlestop or MSI Afterburner/RivaTuner Statistics Server to modifying hardware clocks, voltages, etc. Stuff that interacts directly with your hardware, like your CPU, that need to start with Windows.

    I distinguish those from optimizers or software tweaks like disabling various startup applications. Hmmm, now I'm intrigued by Anvir. I'll take a look-see. :cautious:
     
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    Answer to the 1st post in this thread:

    - Oh yes. Quite possible. I know that sometimes that software hasn't been optimized (enough) and that will/can slow down the entire computer. In a new release of the software the program code has been optimized and then one's system will run (much) faster.
    - One example is the difference between Windows Vista and Windows 7 & 8. In Vista a number of socalled Windows Services would run all the time but in Windows 7 & 8 the Services have been (more) optimized. E.g some of these Services will run with a (much) lower priority or only run when the user needs them.
     
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  4. Surt

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    FYI: The Open Hardware Monitor bundled in Anvir is v0.8.0.2 Alpha.

    The newer v0.8.0.3 Beta is at https://openhardwaremonitor.org/. "Newer" relative to the v0.8.0.2 Alpha, not the release date Nov. 6, 2016.

    Works great on my Win7 & 10 systems, though as old as it is, some newer hardware sensors may not render data in the plot window.

    I've used it since v0.5.1 and 100% of the time, I park it's nifty real-time customizable gadget on my old desktop clunker. The bars represent 0-100%. (The CPU Core bars are dynamic. Not much going on when forum posting and screenshotting. They really rip when processing video.)

    OpenHdwrMonDTop.jpg
     
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  5. Willy2

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    - I use Task Scheduler to start a number of programs with a delay of between 2 and 10 minutes.
    - Some programs have horrible memory management and then those programs need to write and read (much) more data to & from disk (disk I/O). Disk I/O is comparatively (very) slow and the more disk I/O the more a computer system (can) slow(s) down.
    - Although A LOT OF computer users hate memory optimizers (for a good reason !!!), I use one program that actually uses a different method to reduce memory usage. The program is "PcWinTech's CLEANMEM". The program (tries to) reduce(s) the amount of "In use" memory. That reduction leads to less disk I/O and therefore makes/can make one's system faster.
    - The program also is able to collapse the file cache. I have seen file caches that had sizes of 1 GB and more.

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    https://www.pcwintech.com/cleanmem
     
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    For startup? yes for drivers? no, only MS can give drivers their starting priority.
     
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    Interesting.
    Is that one offer anything of better benefit than the one I been using on Windows 8.1 with 4Gb RAM?
    Any extra squeeze makes a big difference when memory is limited.

    Mem Reduct 3.3.5
     
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    - "Mem Reduct" doesn't deflate the file cache. CLEANMEM (CM) is able to do so. CM doesn't kill the file cache, it (temporarily) reduces the size of the cache as much as possible. If possible to zero.
    - "Reduce memory usage" is not the correct term. CM & (I assume) "MemReduct" both use the API called "EmptyWorkingSet()". This API pushes parts of the "In Use" memory into the "Standby" part of the memory. And that means that the Windows' memory management has A LOT OF extra work to do, has to make A LOT OF extra decisions on what to do with the info in the "Standby" part of the memory.
    - "Deflating the file cache" also pushes the info in the cache into the "Standby" part of the memory.
    - If a program needs to, it can reclaim the data that was pushed into the "Standby" part of the memory.
     
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    Obviously, all these things don't help make the cpu go faster, it's $$$ that makes cpu go faster, when you buy better cpu :D And overclocking, you can get quite the gains, for example a stock processor with 3.5 ghz, with a cheap $20 cooler you can make it to like 4.3-4.4 ghz easily, that's a noticeable gain. But software that stop background processes and the likes are usually just pointless, unless you've installed a gazillion programs that run for no reason, and even then with a midrange gaming pc it won't matter much, as long as you have enough RAM and your cpu is decent (any ryzen processor, any intel with 4 cores, or even some of the better 2 core 4 threads cpus). For example my background programs that are always running (not active windows) are my firewall (simplewall), speedfan to control my fans, my mouse software, my gpu software (amd/nvidia respectively), my browser (I never close it), and intel rapid storage technology. 6 icons in the tray. That's literally everything that's running on my pc (along with a few databases), plus whatever program I'm using at the time, the main program, that could be a game or anything else. I've disabled all the unnecessary microsoft ****, such as smartscreen.exe, defender processes, windows search indexing processes etc. With no active programs running and not counting my browser, my ram usage is just 2gb (not counting the databases). If you have 8gb, that should be enough to run a browser AND a game, it should fit in 8gb for all but the most demanding games, assuming you haven't opened a thousand tabs of course. If anything, those programs that optimize your background processes and stuff also consume ram and maybe even cpu if they're scanning in real-time for background processes to stop (if it's just one time button then it probably doesn't actively use the cpu, but will likely still consume a few hundred mb ram). Much better solution is to simply remove all the crap you're not using actively, and only open them when you truly need them, rather than auto-start everything by default when you login into windows and then you have 20 programs working in the background eating away at your ram and possibly cpu. Also make sure to adjust for best performance of programs rather than background services, from "this pc" right click properties, advanced system settings, advanced tab, performance settings, advanced tab, adjust for best performance of, and also make sure your windows power settings are not set to power savings and the likes (unless you're on a laptop), and also the same should be done from the gpu control panel, on nvidia go to "Adjust image settings with preview", click "use the advanced 3d settings", then go to manage 3d settings, and in global settings on power management mode choose "Adaptive". This will make sure the gpu is not wasting power when it's not being used, there have been problems reported with Optimal power where sometimes the gpu decides to save power even when the gpu is actively being used, such as when watching a 4k/8k youtube video or gaming etc. For amd just change the global wattman settings to custom and disable chill. Check out tairiku okami's pastebin, he has lots of useful tweaks to disable all kinds of **** what does nothing and just consume your resources and runs in the background, things like "fullscreen optimizations" on windows 10, game bar etc. Also make sure you have newest drivers, especially for your gpu, I don't update the other drivers often cuz there's a new one every week or two (whether it's an ethernet driver, sound driver, some chipset driver etc.), but for your gpu it's worth it to update every time there's a new driver, that will give you the latest fixes and optimizations, especially for new games. I update the other drivers like every month or two, but I always update gpu drivers as soon as a new one is out.

    Btw, this is what happens when you haven't logged in for a few months :argh:
     
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