can I purge the mtf data?

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  1. mantra

    mantra Registered Member

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    Hi
    i know there are some command lines in xp to purge the mtf data



    can somebody tell me where can i find these command lines?

    or can post here?


    thanks
    have a nice day



    ps : the messager service in xp should be on or off
     
  2. Huupi

    Huupi Registered Member

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    Do you mean Master File Table,if so purging make a mess of your disk ! o_O
     
  3. ErikAlbert

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    Mantra,
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    And you want to purge this, to improve what ?
     
  4. mantra

    mantra Registered Member

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    yes i meat master file table , a purge /clean up of old voice of files i deleted

    i'm almost there is a solution here in this forum
    but i'm not able to find it
     
  5. Huupi

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    http://www.briggsoft.com/demos/dsndemo2.swf will help you.

    To clean the whole is not a good idea,but to delete already arased files who stay put in the MFTthis utility wil help i guess.
    direct link http://www.briggsoft.com/dsnoop.htm
     
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  6. chrisretusn

    chrisretusn Registered Member

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    In general is should be disabled.

    See Shoot The Messenger at GRC for explanation
     
  7. RAD

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    Paragon Total Defrag will defrag, compact, and shrink the MFT.....but that is not exactly "purging". The OS keeps track of what files are where through the MFT, so an attempted purge sounds risky.
     
  8. mantra

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    i'm sure my mft was messed up by perfect disk or paragon defrag

    by the way i found this fsutil usn deletejournal /n c:
     
  9. RAD

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    I don't know what to say. I have been using both Perfectdisk and Paragon also, with no problems on the MFT. But I don't have both programs installed simultaneously. I used Paragon for a month, then uninstalled and installed Perfectdisk. Maybe that has something to do with it.

    I also habitually do a disk image (Paragon Drive Backup) before any program installs/uninstalls just in case of a problem.
     
  10. markymoo

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    @mantra

    Interesting topic.

    What you need is a util that cleans old deleted file entries in the MFT. These are rare. If files are small enough they can fit inside the MFT. Most wipe utils avoid cleaning the MFT even good ones. Interesting to note MFT it can become heavily fragmented more so if you convert a FAT32 to NTFS.

    One suggestion of mine is to overwrite and rename the files several times before they get deleted.

    I have a dos util that will overwrite over old MFT entries, will find it, also Evidence Eliminator will do it.

    Read Berghel findings.

    http://www.berghel.net/col-edit/digital_village/aug-06/dv_8-06.php

    Heres some comprehensive info on how MFT is stored.
    http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q174619

    also have a look at SDelete but i don't think it's upto the job.
    http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb897443.aspx
     
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  11. markymoo

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    This will do it. A powerful wipe command line util. Probably 1 of 3 utils in existence that will do it. I would strongly suggest you backup your data before using it.

    Wipe03

    http://www.myplanetsoft.com/free/wipe.php


    Help
    http://www.myplanetsoft.com/free/wipehelp.php#hints



    screenshot options
    http://artco.adsl24.co.uk/markymoo/wipe03.jpg
     
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  12. mantra

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    thanks marky really very valued, appraised, estimated
     
  13. mantra

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    did you find that one of these program enable the usn journal ?

    have you enabled right now?
     
  14. RAD

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    I am not familiar with that. How do I check ? Why is it a good thing or a bad thing ?
    Thanks.
     
  15. markymoo

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    @mantra

    What software are you using to show the MFT? I have software that displays the MFT but not the deleted entries.
     
  16. mantra

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    thanks marky
    i have ultimatedefrag:'( :'( :'(
    which software can i use to display mtf?
     
  17. mantra

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    marky what do u use sdelete?
     
  18. Mrkvonic

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    Hello,
    Just a simple question, why on earth would you risk screwing up your entire partition? What's the ultra benefit?
    Mrk
     
  19. mantra

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    :D yeah you are right!
     
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