Buying a Laptop -- questions re OS

Discussion in 'other software & services' started by bellgamin, Sep 13, 2016.

  1. bellgamin

    bellgamin Very Frequent Poster

    Joined:
    Aug 1, 2002
    Posts:
    5,648
    Location:
    Hawaii
    I am going to buy (from Amazon) a used laptop computer for use by a youngster. I do NOT want Windows 10.

    >>QUESTIONS:

    1) Is Windows 8.1 okay? Reasonably stable, etc?

    2) Is Microsoft still issuing security patches for 8.1?

    3) Is Microsoft still pushing Windows 10 as an *involuntary* upgrade? If so, what should I do when the laptop first boots, so as to prevent Win10 from ever happening without my say-so?

    Any & all comments will be hugely appreciated.
     
  2. roger_m

    roger_m Registered Member

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2009
    Posts:
    5,240
    Yes, it works well. However, you may want install Classic Shell or a similar Start Menu replacement so you have a Start Menu instead of the new Start Screen which is more designed for a touchscreen than a mouse.
    Yes, and they will continue to do so until January of 2023.
    They have stopped that, now that they have officially ended the free upgrade period.

    Personally, I would always choose Windows 10 over 8.1 or any other version of Windows. But, each to their own.
     
  3. zapjb

    zapjb Registered Member

    Joined:
    Nov 15, 2005
    Posts:
    3,518
    Location:
    USA - Back in a real State in time for a real Pres
    What will it be used for? How long is it expected to last? Budget? Laptop, desktop or either? Does it have to be Windows?
     
  4. Robin A.

    Robin A. Registered Member

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2006
    Posts:
    2,279
    I think the most important factor to decide is how old the person who is going to use the computer is. If she/he is young, Windows 10 is better. It´s the future, and she/he will have enough time to learn it and exploit its capabilities. Besides, it´s much more fun. You never know what it´s going to happen with the next update.
     
  5. zapjb

    zapjb Registered Member

    Joined:
    Nov 15, 2005
    Posts:
    3,518
    Location:
    USA - Back in a real State in time for a real Pres
    No Linux is the future.
     
  6. Osaban

    Osaban Registered Member

    Joined:
    Apr 11, 2005
    Posts:
    4,220
    Yes I would agree with Roger Win 8.1 is a great OS if you don't want to use Win 10...
     
  7. ProTruckDriver

    ProTruckDriver Registered Member

    Joined:
    Sep 18, 2008
    Posts:
    768
    Location:
    "Here on Wilders"
    So true. :argh:
     
  8. bellgamin

    bellgamin Very Frequent Poster

    Joined:
    Aug 1, 2002
    Posts:
    5,648
    Location:
    Hawaii
    The user is 55 (a younger son) and I do not wish him to age rapidly -- therefor Win10 does not compute. It is illogical.

    @ rogerM -- you gave me very responsive info. Just what I needed to know. Thanks!
     
  9. roger_m

    roger_m Registered Member

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2009
    Posts:
    5,240
    You're welcome.
     
  10. NormanF

    NormanF Registered Member

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2009
    Posts:
    1,441
    You can downgrade to Windows 7.

    Windows 8xxx suck. Windows 7 is the last great classical OS Microsoft made.
     
  11. roger_m

    roger_m Registered Member

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2009
    Posts:
    5,240
    Yes, but that would require the purchase of Windows 7. It seems pretty silly to spend money and then take the time to downgrade to what is in my opinion a inferior OS. Windows 8.1 is faster than Windows 7, and if you add a Start Menu replacement then works pretty much the same.
     
  12. Chuck57

    Chuck57 Registered Member

    Joined:
    Sep 2, 2002
    Posts:
    1,422
    Location:
    New Mexico, USA
    Got this laptop 2 yrs ago with Win 7 Pro and an upgrade disk to 8.1 Pro. I stuck with 7 Pro for seven or eight months and a crash a week. Never did figure out why. Neither could the techs. It just crash dumped every week, even with cleaning the thing daily. I finally did the upgrade to see what 8.1 Pro was like. No more crashes. It was rock solid and dependable, and faster than 7 Pro.

    I took the plunge to Win 10 last October and hung on until after the anniversary update when half my programs quit working or began having problems. So, I'm back with Win 8.1 and am happy. It's solid, reliable and everything works. I'm staying with Windows 8.1.
     
  13. zapjb

    zapjb Registered Member

    Joined:
    Nov 15, 2005
    Posts:
    3,518
    Location:
    USA - Back in a real State in time for a real Pres
    @Chuck57 There was a time about a year ago W7 started BSOD once a week then every few days. Finally I pulled my head out of my *** & I copied the BSOD error code. I Googled the code & M$ had put out out a specific fix. Ever since no BSOD. Btw it was because I have Nvidia switchable graphics.
     
  14. Rasheed187

    Rasheed187 Registered Member

    Joined:
    Jul 10, 2004
    Posts:
    8,026
    Location:
    The Netherlands
    Yes, it's pretty good, it hasn't crashed in the last 6 months or so. I decided not to upgrade to Win 10 because it doesn't bring any important new features, and because of the whole privacy fiasco.
     
  15. bellgamin

    bellgamin Very Frequent Poster

    Joined:
    Aug 1, 2002
    Posts:
    5,648
    Location:
    Hawaii
    Thanks to all!!! I bought the laptop w/8.1 & gave it to my *friend*. He is happy with it.

    I am still an XP holdout. However, the good comments about 8.1 have got me thinking as to whether I should buy a tower-with-8.1-installed for myself. My present tower is vintage 1998 & slow. I am very comfortable using XP but I would like a faster tower, with 8GB ram.

    QUESTIONS:

    1) I detest touchscreen. I understand that 8.1 offers the ability for the user to make 8.1 *somewhat emulate* XP (w/o touchscreen). True? If so, is that ability built into 8.1? Is it hard to do?

    2) How much of a learning curve would be involved if I moved from XP to 8.1?

    3) Will my 32-bit apps run on 64-bit, or will I have to replace everything?
     
  16. Minimalist

    Minimalist Registered Member

    Joined:
    Jan 6, 2014
    Posts:
    5,060
    1. You can use Classic shell to replace Start menu: http://www.classicshell.net/. I've been using it when I replaced Win 7 with Win 8 and I liked it. It's not hard to install and configure it.
    2. After replacing start menu, I don't think you will need a lot of learning.
    3. Apps will run on Windows 8.1 if they are compatible with it. 32 bit applications can run on 64 bit OS, you are not limited to 64 bit apps.
     
  17. Rasheed187

    Rasheed187 Registered Member

    Joined:
    Jul 10, 2004
    Posts:
    8,026
    Location:
    The Netherlands
    I agree with these comments. After installing Classic Shell, Win 8 is basically the same as XP, but more stable and secure.
     
Loading...