@FRug "Stefan: "Provide me with SOMETHING or you are not part of the solution." Joxean: "No, i don't care because Oracle's been a meanie." Hungry Man: "I like running in circles, why don't you?"" He was provided with everything he needs. Want to talk about running in circles? Read his posts. The last one is the first time he's posted *anything of substance whatsoever* - everything else has been whining that someone broke software he worked on and didn't just hand it over. Every other post reads like marketing drivel. Sorry that I understand offensive research and take offense to having someone who actually participates in the security community being accused of malicious action. God forbid companies take proactive approaches.