BootIt BM & Partition Management

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  1. The Shadow

    The Shadow Registered Member

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    I am confused when it comes to using BootIt Bare Metal for disk partitioning operations (after booting a PC with the BIBM CD). Hopefully someone can help me out...

    Question 1. My OS is W7x64. I have 5 NTFS partitions and 3 seperate areas of unallocated space on my drive. I would like to extend the size of my primary active partition by taking the space from the unallocated areas, but when I try to resize the partition I am informed that it is already at the maximum size! How do I utilize the unallocated space to extend the size of my primary active partition? o_O

    Question 2. Somehow my daughter accidentally deleted a partition on her W7 PC which contains her photos. She has a total of 5 partitions (including the deleted partition). When I try to use BIBM to undelete that partition I get a popup message to the effect that I must first create an EMBR. What are the ramifications of doing that (and why should that be necessary)? :doubt:

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  2. pandlouk

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    1.You must move/slide the partitions one by one so that all the unalocated space is after the os partition and then resize it.
    2. Is not necessary to use embr. Was a primary or a logical parttion?

    Panagiotis
     
  3. The Shadow

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    Panagiotis, thanks for your reply, but as I have very little experience using BIBM I am still confused...

    1. I do see BIBM's 'Slide' button, but how exactly do I move the unallocated spaces so that they are positioned after my Windows partition?

    2. I'm not sure what kind of partition it was (nor is my daughter) but when I click on BIBM's 'Undelete' button a popup message says that I need to create an EMBR. If I reply 'No' (ie., don't create an EMBR) BIBM doesn't allow me to undelete the partition!

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  4. Brian K

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    TS,

    Can you post screenshots of your and your daughter's Disk Management?
     
  5. The Shadow

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    Hi Brian,

    I can't do that at this time. First of all, I'm not at my daughter's house and secondly I've been experiencing difficulties with my system (that's in question) as well as with Wilders website! Specifically, what is it that you would like to know?

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  6. Brian K

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    TS,

    I can understand the partition layout better if I can see a graphic. Words aren't as good.
     
  7. The Shadow

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    Sorry Brian, but right now I'm fortunate to be able to just post words on Wilders! Is it just me or is the site having problems? I'm also doing this from my 2nd PC as my laptop is giving me fits (probably because its primary active partition is almost full)!

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  8. pandlouk

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    You are welcome,

    1. You slide the partitions not the unallocated space.
    2. Hm. Then Bootit tries to create a primary one (for this we need a screenshot before answering how to proceed or at least to now what type are the remaining partitions).

    Panagiotis
     
  9. pandlouk

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    Yes, the site has problems today.

    Do not allow bootit to modify your daughters disk because it will make harder for other programs to undelete/fix it.

    You can try findandmount http://findandmount.com/
    to mount the deleted partition as a virtual disk (is safer since it does not write anything on the disk).

    Panagiotis
     
  10. The Shadow

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    1. I'm not sure I see how to do the slide that you are suggesting. Another related question, as my data partition (NTFS logical) is much too large, can I 'steal' the space from my data partition to enlarge my Windows partition? If so, how do I do that?

    2. Correction: My daughter's disk consisted of one NTFS primary active and the rest are NTFS logical patitions. :doubt:

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  11. pandlouk

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    1. Form the manual
    Yes you can. First you select your data partition and resize it to the desired size. Then you "slide" it versus the end of the disc by selecting "free space after"= 0mb. And finally you resize the OS partition.
    2. I never had luck undeleting logical partitions with bootit bm. Try with Partition wizard. http://www.partitionwizard.com

    Panagiotis
     
  12. TheKid7

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    There is the following Terabyte video tutorial which is titled "Example of how to Resize Partitions".

    -http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/videos/bing/resizing.wmv
     
  13. The Shadow

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    Well after reading all comments (and viewing the video), I am finally getting the hang of BIBM and realizing that...
    ...geting the job done right = knowing how to use the program!

    I am finding BIBM is a terrific partition manager, but I sure wish it offered an error correction utility (like chkdsk /f) when it finds/reports errors.

    Thanks guys - your suggestions got me heading in the right direction! ;)
     
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    I resolved most of what I wanted to do (above), but I'm still totally stumped with one outstanding issue. Of the 2 unallocated areas remaining on my disk, I cannot figure out how to consume the 7.33GB space into my G-partition! While BIBM will allow me to enlarge my C-partition using the 35.16GB unallocated space (which follows the C-partition), BIBM will not allow me to enlarge my G-partition using the 7.33GB unallocated space (which follows the G-partion)! What's with that? o_O

    DskMgt.PNG

    I sure would appreciate learning the 'trick' in order to accomplish this!!! :blink:

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  15. The Shadow

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    ....and here are a couple of digicam snaps showing what BIBM sees:

    BIBM-Partitions.jpg

    BIBM-MBR.jpg
     
  16. Brian K

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    TS,

    You have to resize MBR1 (extended partition) to include the free space. Then you can resize G: drive.
     
  17. The Shadow

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    Brian, thanks for your insight, but I can't figure out how to resize MBR1. :doubt:

    Would you please walk me through the pocedure?
     
  18. Brian K

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    TS,

    In Partition Work, select MBR1 (the Extended partition). Click Resize. In the End fields you have Inside and Outside. Make Free Space Outside 0. This moves the Free Space inside the Extended partition so you can then resize the Backup partition and remove the Free Space.

    Once you have done it you will realize it is easy. Just a new concept.
     
  19. The Shadow

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    Thanks Brian, that solution is soooo simple (and fast) - I am really impressed with BIBM (and with you)! :thumb:

    TS
     
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