boot from usk key

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  1. swan_x

    swan_x Registered Member

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    well, i have installed TI9, but when i create bootable rescue media (full version) for my usb key, and reboot my pc, one message write:
    <not operating system found! > :blink:
     
  2. Menorcaman

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    Re: boot from usb key

    Hi swan_x,

    That's the error message you can get if your USB pen drive has been formatted as FAT16. It is essential that you format it as FAT before creating the Rescue Media to it.

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    Re: boot from usb key

    tanxs Menorcaman! ;)

    another problem:

    I have created one image of C of mine notebook but when reboot in order to restore the image, the written one appears on video:
    <starting acronis loader>
    the screen becomes black and all firm :eek:

    in my home pc TI9 (the same one build 2337) work perfectly!
     
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    Re: boot from usb key

    Hi again swan_x,

    Boot into the Linux kernal command line and add acpi=off noapic after the word quiet as detailed in the Acronis Support sticky titled <Please Read Before You Post> and see if that makes a difference.

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    Re: boot from usb key

    I have a working usb boot key. The key needs to be formated with dos boot files and fat format. There is a tool that will format the key and make it bootale. Do you still need help with this?
     
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    Re: boot from usb key

    When creating the bootable rescue media, TI writes it's own boot loader. I've now used 3 different makes of USB flash drives and have never used a third party tool to make the TI rescue media bootable; just had to FAT format them first. However, although TI reported that it had created a Floppy Disk version of the rescue media, I did find that my motherboard BIOS needed to be set to boot from either USB-HD, USB-CD or USB-ZIP. Only then would the USB flash drive to boot into TI rescue mode.

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  7. kiwi51

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    How do you get TI to recognise the flash drive. I have a USB card reader installed showing J,K,L as removeable drives. There is also a USB passthrough where I have a usb key. Windows recognises it as a HD formatted as FAT and it does not show up in the list that TI shows when creating the boot device. J,K,L show up as well as floppy and DVD drive

    I had previously formatted the USB key as a bootable drive with the programme that came with it
     
  8. kiwi51

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    Oops sorry I had the USB password protected by the utility that came with it and had to execute the "flash lock" programme on the key so it could be seen

    Off to make a USB Acronis boot key
     
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    Re: boot from usb key

    Hello kiwi51,

    Does TI detect the USB key if you connect it directly to one of the USB ports at the rear of your motherboard?

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  10. kiwi51

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    Re: boot from usb key

    Thanks for the reply

    TI 9 formatted the key OK- I selected FAT and the bios boots OK from USB-ZIP. I see the key being read but it hangs at Acronis Loader......... prompt

    Will try quiet ACPI etc
     
  11. Kiwi51

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    Strange thing happened

    TI9 was seeing the USB key as removeable media and made a bootable drive but after rebooting I got an Acronis LOading........ then nothing though the key was being accessed. Pushing F11 made no difference

    When I rebooted it tried to reboot from the key but I got a FreeDos FAT line displayed and then nothing. I reformatted the key with FAT

    Now I can't get TI 9 to recognise the key as a removable media. Windows calls it a local disk and displays it under Hard Drives in the folder view.

    I must have formatted it wrong or there is something left on the key
     
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    Re: boot from usb key

    IM me and I'll run you through what works for me.
     
  13. kiwi51

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    Thanks for the offer but I don't have IM installed
     
  14. kiwi51

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    Well got it working OK.

    Formatted the usb key as a USB-ZIP with the utility that came with the key

    Used TI9 to write a Bootable rescue Media to the key.

    Changed my Bios so it would first boot from USB-ZIP.

    Plugged in key.

    Three IDE drives, 2 SATA drives (one system), 2 external USB drives
    USB Mouse connected to PS/2 port via adaptor
    Selection screen loads and I selected Full
    Programme loaded
    All drives are present
    and saved a backup to an external USB drive- quite slow

    Tried a reboot and selected Safe.
    Mouse and keyboard worked
    Saw all the drives although there was a lot of interegation of the external USB drives
    Started a backup to external USB drive which appeared to be working but at a snail pace. Cancelled

    Good to have it working but I will stick with my BARTPE with TI plugin disc for any restores I think UNLESS I manage to get BARTPE to boot from my USB key- I tried to make it work but couldn't get it to work
     
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    i formatted my usb key in FAT, but after rebooting I got an Acronis Loading........ then nothing though the key was being accessed.
    Pushing F11 made no difference :eek:
     
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    Hi again swan_x,

    Are you seeing the "Starting Acronis loader" or "Acronis Loading, please wait..." message? If it's the latter then you must have been able to proceed past the TI screen where you are presented with 3 options - boot into Full rescue mode, boot into Safe rescue mode or continue booting into Windows. It's whilst this selection screen is displayed that you need to press the F11 key to enter Linux kernel command line prompt. After you press F11 you will see the command line that already contains the word Quiet. Leave a space after Quiet, add the commands acpi=off noapic and then click OK. With luck you should then be able to boot your notebook into the Linux based rescue environment (it may take a little time after you see "Acronis Loading, please wait..." message).

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    from my usb key:
    i write: <quiet ide-detect=off>
    reboot system, but <non system disk, press any key...>

    from cd:
    <starting acronis loader...>
    yes starting in safe mode
    in full mode, black screen

    from the program True Image:
    <starting acronis loader...>
    5 seconds....black screen

    only reboot from cd, and launch in safe mode, work for me!!!
     
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    Hello swan_x,

    I'm sorry but it's not clear to me what you mean by this.

    Unfortunately your system seems to be locking up prior to the TI selection screen. This means you are unable to F11 into the Linux kernel command line prompt. It's probably best that you seek further assistance now from support@acronis.com as detailed in the Acronis Support Stick titled <Please Read Before You Post>.

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    I have made boot from cd, i write in linux kernel commandd line (F11):
    <quiet ide-detect=off>
    reboot my system, but making boot from usb key
    <non system disk, press any key...>
     
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    Well that's strange because in your Post #16 above you stated
    What has changed since then? Have you left a non-system disk in your floppy drive or CD/DVD recorder?

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  21. swan_x

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    no, no, no!

    i have formatted my usb key in FAT; i have write in linux kernel commandd line (F11):
    <quiet ide-detect=off>

    but from always boot from usb key
    <non system disk, press any key...>

    nothing is changed !!!
     
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    We seem to be going around in circles here!! These are the steps in the order that I would like you to follow:

    1. Format the USB key as FAT (not FAT32).
    2. From TI running under Windows, create the bootable rescue media to the USB key.
    3. Remove any disks from your floppy drive and CD/DVD recorder.
    4. Ensure your system BIOS is set to boot from either USB-HD, USB-CD or USB-ZIP.
    5. Insert the USB key containing the rescue media and boot the system.
    6. If it gets as far as the TI selection screen, press F11 whilst this screen is displayed to drop into the Linux kernal command line prompt.
    7. After the word QUIET, leave a space and type acpi=off noapic (make sure you type noapic and NOT noacpi !!) and then click on OK.

    Now can you confirm how far you get along the 7 steps and what you see written on the screen please? This will make it easer for us to understand what's going on :).

    Regards
     
  23. swan_x

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    you write:
    1. Format the USB key as FAT (not FAT32).
    2. From TI running under Windows, create the bootable rescue media to the USB key.
    3. Remove any disks from your floppy drive and CD/DVD recorder.
    4. Ensure your system BIOS is set to boot from either USB-HD, USB-CD or USB-ZIP.
    5. Insert the USB key containing the rescue media and boot the system.


    OK!!!
    but on reboot TI selection screen not it appears!!!
    <non system disk, press any key...>
     
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    O.K. understood. In that case it seems that your hardware is incapable of booting from a USB key without the assistance of a third-party utility as per cyber8der's Post #6 above. Suggest you send him a Private Message and ask if he can help.

    Regards
     
  25. swan_x

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    ok! this is the problem !!!
    my hardware is incapable of booting from a USB key!
    what is cyber8der's o_O
     
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