Like ordering from a Mexican menu on your 1st visit, it can be confusing. Same with a new browser like Firebird. Thus BlackDiamond! Link> http://volcano.photobucket.com/albums/v11/Quack/f47fa2ad.png Black Diamond is a Moz.org project to create a distrubution of Mozilla Firebird with many of the popular extentions added. I comes as a self-extracting zip file. No need for plugins with this Mozilla Firebird 0.7 package. It does a registry search for all available plugins. Pre-installed is a popular theme (ie skin) and 7 or so of the most popular 'extensions' like tabbed browsing, a must have for moderators jumping from post to post! (i think there are about 114 available). Just d/l and unzip! Enable all Java applets (under tools>options). See the following for a link to the main Firebird site for more helpful links! http://members.cox.net/libbo1/bird.gif Shed urself of the security issues related to IE, and enjoy da RAW SPEED!!!!!