Discussion in 'other anti-virus software' started by Indeed, Oct 15, 2005.
Which one is better against spywares, adwares etc., Kaspersky 5 or NOD32?
I'd say Kaspersky with its extended bases. NOD32 will catch some new variant or two, but most of the time KAV will outperfrom it easily.
In a crack site that I´ve tested, NOD32 detected a lot of HTML/TrojanDownloader.XXXToolbar Adware ... is this a trojan or a Adware?
NOD32 have detected JS/TrojanDownloader.IstBar.J trojan and a variant of JS/TrojanDownloader.IstBar.K too
Kaspersky detected Trojan-Downloader.JS.IstBar.j and Exploit.HTML.CodeBaseExec
I don´t know if the Exploit.HTML.CodeBaseExec that KAV detected is the same of HTML/TrojanDownloader.XXXToolbar Adware that NOD32 detected..
Thats probably because KAV doesn't have the HTTP scanner (yet) and doesn't really trigger for all stuff. So thats probably the reason for less warnings.
It would probably detect them when they'd be physically on HDD...
This piece of malware will download the "XXX toolbar" which contains another Trojan which will then carry out its function(s). (At least thats what I think)
And BTW at the moment KAV (with ext bases) is better than NOD32 for Adware/Spyware detection.....NOD32 is improving, but I still feel KAV is better at Adware/Spyware detection.
NOD32 is still just starting out with adding adware/spyware to it's database, so it's not fully up to speed yet. The http scanner can really make up for it, though, by pulling out the scripts used to get that stuff downloaded on your machine in the first place.
KAV is better then NOD in everything , in all tests , allways.
You can try the new KAV 2006 beta with HTTP scaning and you will see the diference. It's amazing !
The boundaries between adware and trojans are becoming blurred as more adware is infecting files in other ways.
That's a very audacious statement to claim that KAV's beats NOD32 in everything, e.g. in speed and heuristics detection of new threats. There are threats that NOD32 picks up and KAV misses and vice-versa. I've got a lot of such examples.
Sorry , we was talking about detection here and that was what I meant. I should be more precise.OK there are threats that NOD32 picks up and KAV misses and viceversa but the ballance is by far in KAV side.
Heuristics do count for detection as well. New unknown malware is mostly all I get on my system anymore, and NOD32 has been great at detecting them, generally before anyone else.
I agree that the balance is still on KAV's side. It still detects a greater breadth of samples. Also, KAV 2006 will have proactive defense, which will help it protect against unknown malware.
If we're going to look into the future and talk about features of upcoming versions, we'll have to include NOD 3.0...guess what that'll have!
I'll certainly check out the upcoming NOD and compare, but for now I'm happy with KAV.
Why are there so many NOD or KAV threads? They are both very good. The differences are in style and philosophy.
Becuase one HAS TO BE BETTER!
No kidding huh? Getting to be nearly one a week. Think peeps would just scroll down a bit and find 88 other similar threads.
I'd hope you'd provide either company with the threats that they miss so that definitions can be prepared to prevent them missing them in future.
What you mean with this ?
I mean if there are threats picked up by one of the AVs, but missed by the other, I'd hope the sample would be submitted to the AV that has missed it.
You do not really expect from Marcos, an Eset employee, that he submits all missed samples to other antivirus companies? Do you? I mean you could then just employ a few guys only for submitting undetected malware to other av vendors.
Too bad Godel proved a long time ago, that even if one antivirus was better, we could never prove it.
I think TonyW had the USER in mind to do this, not the AV company, but the average user won't do this, too much work.
I didn't know that Marcos was an ESET employee. I just picked up on what he said thus: "There are threats that NOD32 picks up and KAV misses and vice-versa. I've got a lot of such examples."
If KAV has so much better detection rate of adwares than NOD32, why didn´t kav detected HTML/TrojanDownloader.XXXToolbar Adware?