BartPE on Vista Home Premium

Discussion in 'Acronis True Image Product Line' started by buzzmag2, May 22, 2008.

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  1. Brian K

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    Not necessarily.

     
  2. buzzmag

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    Brian,

    I'll give them both a try. Anyway, it's about time that I work out some of the difficulties on my own. Who knows, maybe I'll become the resident "expert".
     
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    Yes give it a try! I kept giving up, but once I started getting help on this forum and a lot of patience I might add from Mustang, I was able to create a BartPe and VistaPe .
    Good luck and please keep us posted.
    I am really glad you came back, wouldn't want to lose you because of one "bad apple".
     
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    For someone "innocent", you sure got defensive, and made false accusations. I was trying to be helpful and I gave many ways to try.

    I never accused you at all, I was asking a question and just stating that I have heard of the problems you are encountering with people using an illegal Acronis copy. But it was a question, not a statement. Your interpretation was misguided and in error, perhaps due to my question being sensitive due to it containing trutho_O?

    Anyway, I created successfully a VistaPE BOOT CD with BartPE plugin, so it is possible.

    Also try different brand CD/DVD to burn to. Have you tried that?

    Also try another DVD burner and/or different DVD cable.

    Also, does any DVD you burn work, or is your DVD burner faulty?

    If that fails, ask a friend who is experienced in using computers and someone who is experienced in following instructions to come help you create the VistaPE CD.
     
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    Whatever you say O great truthseeker. We all bow to your superior knowledge.
     
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    truthseeker,

    Does that mean that you didn't accuse Mustang either?
     
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    No, with Mustang I made an assumed conclusion which was wrong. Hence, why I ask in the future and not assume.

    Thats why you will see I was asking buzzmag about the TI, not assuming. But his defensive comments only lead in one direction, so we need not discuss that further. It's obvious.
     
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    I would also like to know how you make out Buzzmag. I tried in the past and didn't get it done - but there is more information now about it. I think I will try again once I finish moving (to Los Angeles by the end of the month.) I have a BartPE that works great with TI 10 (on a Vista computer.) I think you have to use the VistaPE for TI 11 (but I don't know that for sure.) I hope you are successful!

    Take care,

    Sandy
     
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    TI 11 does fine in BartPE too.
     
  10. truthseeker

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    I created a VistaPE boot CD with the BartPE plugin. And I created the VistaPE CD on my Vista PC using only Vista. And it works so good, and so fast.
     
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    Really, I thought I couldn't use the BartPE for TI 11. So, a BartPE will boot a vista computer running TI 10 or 11??


    Sandy
     
  12. MudCrab

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    BartPE runs from the CD (or flashdrive, etc.) and doesn't care what OS is installed on the computer. The same goes for VistaPE. They are self-contained environments and not dependent on an installed OS. It's really no different than booting a Live Linux CD (like Knoppix or Ubuntu).
     
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    Thanks Mudcrab. DwnNdrty helped me create my BartPE. (Actually that is an understatement - he basically created it. All I did was download some files, extract and burn it.) He told me that I would have to use Acronis TI 10 with it. I only use that BartPE on my computer that has TI 10 installed. I never tried it on my other computers that have Acronis TI 11 installed on them. I was under the impression I had to have a VistaPE for those. Of course this was "my understanding" of what he wrote which could be entirely WRONG and my fault.

    So, my confusion is not what OS goes with a VistaPE or a BartPE but what Version of Acronis goes with what Bart/VistaPE...

    Sandy
     
  14. MudCrab

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    You can create a BartPE CD from a XP or Vista installation (you need an XP SP2 CD).

    You can create a VistaPE CD from an XP or Vista installation (you need a Vista or WAIK source).

    TI 8 (I think), 9, 10 and 11 can be included in a BartPE build (only one per build).

    TI 10 and 11 can be included in a VistaPE build (only one per build).

    If you have TI 11 images that you need to access using either BartPE or VistaPE, TI 11 would need to be in the BartPE or VistaPE build. [Edited to add BartPE or.]
     
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    I created a VistaPE Boot CD using the MS WAIK source and Acronis BartPE version 11 TI plugin.
     
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    Sandy, with the bootable BartPE cd that has the Acronis plug-in in it, you don't have to use it with ANY particular version of True Image installed on the computer. In fact you can use it without the TI software installed on the computer. The cd itself has the basic functions of True Image.
     
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    Truthseeker, I made another attempt to do the same thing (using a BartPE plugin) following the directions you had in a link in another thread. But I got stuck at step #7 and I think the reason is that the Bart plugins are not written in the .script format which Winbuilder is expecting.

    Where exactly did you add the BartPE plugin so it appears in Winbuilder after clicking the Refresh button?
     
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    Thanks... I do my backups using TI (whatever version - depending on what computer) from Windows and I do all my restores using TI (again, whatever version) from the CD (whether BartPE or rescue media.) I was under the impression they had to "match." I couldn't use my BartPE which has TI 10 on it to restore back a backup that was done using TI 11. Obviously I was confused - thanks for clearing it up.

    Sandy
     
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    You can't use BartPE with TI 10 to restore a TI 11 image only because TI 10 doesn't work with TI 11 images.
     
  20. buzzmag

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    To all who tried to help.

    Turns out the problem was my desktop. Just made a working VistaPE disk with the TrueImage plugin from Mustang using my laptop. I'm away from my home now so I'll test the disk on my desktop when I get home next week.

    Thanks to everyone.
     
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  21. truthseeker

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    Hmmm, I been trying to remember that step, but I am sad to say I just cannot recall any issue with step 7. I just remember adding the Acronis script somehow and then created the VistaPE CD. Sorry I cannot be any help. But all I can tell you is that I followed those steps and it worked for me.

    Best wishes, hope you get it working.
     
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    Best of luck to you, we have our fingers crossed.
    Please do keep us posted.
    Once you have the VistaPe made, I am sure you will be quiite happy you spent the time making it. ( Make a second copy of it just in case).
     
  23. truthseeker

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    I agree.

    And I wish Acronis would create a VistaPE boot CD for customers. That would be good for everyone who bought Acronis but are having trouble creating the VistaPE.
     
  24. buzzmag

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    Thanks db and truthseeker. Looking forward to see if the disk runs on my desktop.
     
  25. truthseeker

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    Yes, please let us know how it goes.

    And I am not sure this is an idea or not. But if you contact Acronis and ask them if someone can send you their VistaPE boot CD, that may be a solution for you? What you think? Due to (c) issues, Acronis may decline that idea, but have you asked them?

    That way, someone can send you a ready made VistaPE Boot CD with the Acronis BartPE plugin.

    Maybe tell Acronis you have tried unsuccessfully to create it but failed and if another Acronis buyer can send you the one they made.

    After all, both parties are paid Acronis customers, so there would not be any legal or (c) breaches. It would be the same as if someone came to your house to help you create the VistaPE CD, seeing you legally own the Acronis BartPE plugin.

    If I was contacted by an Acronis representative, I could send you the VistaPE image that I created, and then you simply burn it.

    Any Acronis Staff member reading this.. Would that be a good idea? I am desperately trying to help buzzmag that's all, because I know buzzmag has spent so much time and effort in creating a VistaPE Boot CD.
     
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